Talk:Grogar/@comment-26087083-20191111173926/@comment-29981995-20191111201401

We DON’T KNOW if he ever tried it on Gusty; he very well might have and succeeded, only to get the bell stolen by her because he assumed she was no threat without magic. Just because the guy was defeated doesn’t mean he was an idiot, unless you consider arrogance a form of idiocy.