Talk:Bats!/@comment-24349621-20131228163903/@comment-24349621-20131228171814

BenRG:  Thankyou for the warm comments. I've often been told that my tendency to write long comments is annoying and bothersome, and some have even called it spamming the comment secton. Because of these reasons, I usually just try to avoid commenting at all. I'm glad people read my comment, even if it was long.

Bioniclesaur: Thanks, you're right, a lot of this was highly opinionated (even though i tried to not make it so) but that's mostly because these are my first impressions. For Fluttershy's part, I know she's shy and easy to conform to peer pressure (especially considering her childhood, where she was bullied and made to feel submissive in company.) What I MEANT, however, was that Fluttershy should have put more emphasis on her claims. She had good claims, and it was a pity to see them so rejected. They weren't even really mentioned again until the very end, where the pay off was made giving the bats a home for themselves. What I'm saying is, she had good claims, but she didn't point them out effectively enough to give them ground. She should have phrased her points in a more persuasive way, and put more backup on her claims. Instead, she only POINTED OUT what her points WERE, and didn't give them enough oomph' so that her points felt relevant and dire enough to the other ponies her were the ones judging her points. Does that make sense..? I have to mostly agree with AJ, as she is expected to be stubborn in these situations. Don't get me wrong- i fully expected AJ to be stubborn and agree with her own side of the argument 100%, but it felt like Applejack wasn't even listening to Fluttershy. She didn't give her the time of day, and that's the part that bugged me. The song would have been much better, in my opinion of course, had Applejack and Fluttershy been defending their points and bouncing off one another in the process. That is, Fluttershy says one thing and offers a claim, Applejack replies and offers a counterclaim. Instead, both ponies weren't really talking to EACHOTHER, they were almost talking to themselves. They weren't convincing the OTHER pony, they were convincing THEMSELVES. That's the main problem with this particular argument. While fluttershy continuously pointed out how the bats were also good, Applejack constantly pointed out how evil they were. Their argument wasn't an argument at all- Fluttershy made no attempt to talk about how the bats were ALSO destructive and how they could be used to be beneficial, and applejack repeated herself several times without acknowledging Fluttershy's side.