Talk:The Beginning of the End - Part 1/@comment-1031724-20190407042434/@comment-24217346-20190407052721

It's kinda like Morgoth vs Sauron in the J.R.R. Tolkien canon if you think about it. Sauron simply wanted dominion whereas Morgoth had more apocalyptic goals in mind. Most of the villains in this canon wanted to rule all, but if Grogar's reign really was defined by the worst monsters roaming and killing freely, I'd call it close enough to apocalyptic.