Talk:Castle Mane-ia/@comment-26973802-20131106053724/@comment-26973802-20131108014743

"Celestia and Luna vanishing" has no power anymore since we see Celestia in what looks to be Part 2 of the... unless she's using the EoH to banish Nightmare Moon in the past

a.) Rumors that Celestia and Luna won't be in Season 4. (Well, there is the season premier but apart from that)

b.) For Luna, there's more and more speculation that the Nightmare Moon transformation will be in the present and not the past. Nightmare Moon died in the second episode, so if she transforms again, it'll be a second Nightmare Moon persona born from a whole new jealousy. Thus if Luna has that much bitterness and resentment to let TWO transformations take place, there really isn't much hope for her is there? Granted the "outside force" would have to be involved. Or, it could be 100% Luna simply taking the physical appearance of Nightmare Moon (like in Luna Eclipsed), meaning Luna actually turns evil of her own accord. They did it with Tony in 24, why not Luna in MLP? Maybe she'll show remorse as a ghost, you never know.

I don't know, I'm just so used to shows killing off fan favorite characters, or worse, making the fan-favorite heroes turn into villains. Like the above mentioned Tony, and my three favorite characters being killed as well. David Palmer and Bill Buchanan in 24, also Richard Walsh was so cool but they killed him off in the second episode, Sirius and Lupin in Harry Potter, Oenomaus in Spartacus, John Leguizamo's character in The Happening, Bobby and Gabriel in Supernatural, etc. I don't mind villains I like being killed off (actually, for the most part I'd mind if they survived, like Chrysalis, favorite villain but I hope she stays presumed dead from her fall comics aside).

And before any of you use the "kids show" argument that only villains can be killed, Fuzzy Slippers, the cancer patient in Rainbow Dash's bed who thought she was stealing her slippers, he died because there was a funeral in the next episode. MLP moved farther away from pretending to be a kid show with a certain inappropriate scene in Baby Cakes, and threatening a main character with something similar in the very next episode. Besides, family movies have killed heroic characters, like Mufasa in The Lion King or Sir Lionel in Quest for Camelot, even Pokemon killed Latios and Lucario. And Lucario is popular in the furry fandom. Besides, Luna probably won't be "killed" as they put it. She'll be "destroyed", "demolished", "smashed to pieces", basically disintegrate so no body is left behind. Maybe she'll fade into sparkles like Neflite in Sailor Moon, except with him there's lots of blood from a stab wound and the word "die" is used