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User talk:KillRoy231/Archive 1

Sup brah?

Hey KillRoy! How's life going for ya! :D --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 17:17, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

I know it's really difficult on how things work here. I know things seem unfair, but hey, we can only do so much. Don't worry though. You still have your King Sombra theory! I really don't care what that comic says. It wasn't that good anyway. No offense to the writer though. --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 17:42, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

longtime no talk killroy say do you still think that king sombra is dead like i still do?Pokemonmastercb (talk) 00:02, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

that's one thing you and i have in common we both think and or know king sombra is dead and we believe it no matter what anyone else says because its like i always say the crystal heart blew him up into 100 pieces and nobody lives through something like that right?Pokemonmastercb (talk) 01:04, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

you know some how i think you and i think alike when it comes to king sombra.Pokemonmastercb (talk) 05:19, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

Chrysalis "may finally learn the error of her ways" (7)6(four) (talk) 14:03, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

At this point I'd love that. KillRoy231 (talk) 05:43, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Hello

Sure, we can be friends! You seem like a nice person. And don't worry, I won't get annoyed if you talk about your interests. I'm glad someone agrees with me about death in kid's shows. If you need me, feel free to drop by! Fruity Treeze Talk 04:47, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

I love Disney movies too, because like many people I grew up with them. Do you have a favorite? I don't, there are too many to choose from. I haven't actually watched Sailor Moon, but I've heard a lot of good things about it from friends. Fruity Treeze Talk 12:42, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Nice! I love all of those too, except Sleeping Beauty. The end battle was great, but a few minutes are not enough to undo the flat characters (Maleficent was the only one with a personality) and story. I know someone who has pretty much the same opinion of Aladdin as you. I love the movies, but the TV series was just meh. Fruity Treeze Talk 15:55, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

Agree about Disney's TV show tie ins. The Lion Guard is pretty much the only one I actually like. Fruity Treeze Talk 08:28, November 18, 2016 (UTC) 

Yeah, it is based on TLK. It's not amazing, but definitely one of the better shows on Disney Junior (yeah, I know. Competition isn't too strong). And I think I know which episode you mean. 

By the way, just noticed you added me to your friends list. Thanks for that. Fruity Treeze Talk 08:23, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Happy Applejack day! In case you didn't know, she's my favorite pony. Yours are Fluttershy and Rainbow, right? Fruity Treeze Talk 16:46, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Is it the tail thing or blushing (because that emoticon)? Fruity Treeze Talk 17:33, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, it's that one! I was with actually thinking of the one where Iago tries to take over that green weather bird's duties and asks her "Can I have the rainbow tail?". Fruity Treeze Talk 13:11, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Have you watched Moana yet? I'm gonna watch it today! Fruity Treeze Talk 11:03, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate that. I'm looking forward to seeing it, since most of my friends seem to like it. Wonder if it can top Zootopia. Fruity Treeze Talk 19:06, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Hey there! Finally saw Moana, and I loved it! I wouldn't say it's as good as Zootopia (just find the relationship between Nick and Judy better than the one between Moana and Maui), but it comes pretty close. Fruity Treeze Talk 17:04, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

Good luck finding the movie online. I had to sift through tons of stuff until I got a pretty low quality version. It was worth it though. Fruity Treeze Talk 16:06, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Hey there! How's your hiatus going? Liking the anime? Fruity Treeze Talk 17:44, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

Aw, I'm so sorry to hear that. If you need a break from commenting, I respect that. That said, are you still going to watch season 7? Anyway, you can always still talk to me whenever you like. You're a nice person, and I like talking to you. Hope you feel better soon. Fruity Treeze Talk 04:49, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

Understood. Also, I'm curious. You like Beauty and the Beast a lot, so how do you feel about the upcoming live action version? Fruity Treeze Talk 16:12, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

(yay) That's the spirit! Hope you like the season. And yes, I love Gaston too (though really, I love every character in that movie). What "eaten by wolves" concept are you referring to though? Did they originally intend for him to be eaten? If so I'm glad they didn't go with it. Maleficent was changed drastically because the whole point of that movie was to tell Sleeping Beauty from a different perspective. I've seen both Jungle Books and frankly, they're not too amazing. They're just alright, though they do have some fun scenes. Fruity Treeze Talk 10:18, February 17, 2017 (UTC) 

I don't think MLP is gonna get Spongebobbed anytime soon. It was a completely different type of show, a type that was really easy to ruin. SpongeBob was mostly a comedy driven show with its own brand of humor. It became stale because unenthusiastic writers couldn't do that humor well. MLP however is a story/character driven show bring written by people who clearly care about what they're doing. Again, I do hope you find season 7 good enough to stick around for season 8. I may or may not be guilty of introducing some newcomers to the show myself. (awk) Also, who's Screwball? Fruity Treeze Talk 07:13, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to respond to that. On one hand, I too am not very happy that MLP still has stabs taken at it, but I am glad that you still have a passion for MLP. What show is this anyway, and how did they make fun of MLP? Fruity Treeze Talk 08:23, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Star vs. the Forces of Evil?! Really? That's too bad, I've been hearing a lot of good things about it. I probably still will watch it though. And I'm glad to hear you enjoyed Inuyasha. What are your other favorite shows? Fruity Treeze Talk 10:35, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

No, I don't have a Deviantart account. Though if you want to talk outside here, how about FIMFiction? I get email alerts there so I'll be able to answer you a lot quicker. Fruity Treeze Talk 04:45, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Finally back

Hello KillRoy, how are you doing?
At long last, I'm able to return to a more normal life. For the time being, at least.
Thank you for trying to cheer me up in the meantime. Also, it has been quite a while already but thank you for adding me to your friend list. It seems you're getting along with Fruity Treeze who also is a friend to me. That's great!
If you don't mind, I'm writing the rest of the message on my side of the conversation, on my talk page, as I feel it will make more sense if other users happen to read it or react to it.
queen_chrysalis_flying_by_botchan_mlp-d628grg.gifprincess_cadance_flying_by_botchan_mlp-d60t29z.gif Elunalis talk   18:16, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

I'm very sorry to read that feel the need to leave. Also, I'm sorry for failing to react earlier. I hope to reply to your messages properly during the weekend. Thanks for your message about the changelings' metamorphosis; I definitely agree with what you wrote. More on this later as well.
queen_chrysalis_flying_by_botchan_mlp-d628grg.gifprincess_cadance_flying_by_botchan_mlp-d60t29z.gif Elunalis talk   23:23, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Blog

I understand, and you should know that the removal of your most recent blog has nothing to do with anything Chrysalis-related. Rather, it's due to the perpetuated idea of "closure" that the season 7 premiere is supposed to bring. I see the idea being brought up in the comments far too often recently -- to the point at which I have my doubts that the individuals using the word don't really know what it means.

It was not my intention to make you feel "alone for having so many unpopular opinions", and I absolutely do not think of you as "that disruptive annoying guy with stupid opinions". furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 04:03, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Merry Xmas


Got a special King Sombra Xmas image for you, brah! He may be passed on now, but he lives forever in our hearts, and you'll always be in ours, brah! :D --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 01:14, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

Guess what?

As confirmed on December 29, 2016 in the Western region and December 30 in the East, Season 7 has 26 episodes:

FirePuppy (talk) 10:27, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

No need to pry but what is the unrivaled depressing thing that happened at the end of part 1? If you don't want to tell me, I am okay with that but if you are okay with it respond in my talkpage. InterGalaxtic03 (talk) 16:16, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Season 7

I'd say give it a chance. We finally get to see Rainbow Dash's parents and potentially a sibling besides Scootaloo. The hints we got were that they were overbearing or something. I believe they meant super ecstatic which could be from being strict on Dash. This might mean Dash doesn't have a good home life and moved to Ponyville to get away from her mom and dad. Or maybe they just want Grandfoals from her. We might even meet Scootaloo's parents. And freaking William Shatner and the girl from Buffy are guest starring in said episode. I'd say that and several other reasons like characters being rewritten correctly might be worth a watch.  Crimson "Valent" Azure talk   Rarwx7r.png   08:05, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Season 7

I can't say all of S5 and beyond was terrible, as I did like Amending Fences, Crusaders of the lost Mark, Buckball Season (very underrated episode), Rarity Investigates, and Tanks for the Memories to name a few. Aside from those episodes I just don't feel the same excitement for an episode that I did when S2 was new and I became a Brony.

 Crimson "Valent" Azure talk   Rarwx7r.png   18:58, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Triple Threat (7)6(four) (talk) 19:36, May 2, 2017 (UTC) EDIT: Sorry; hope you didn't see this before that synopsis was identified as fake (title's real, but that wasn't why I'd thought to point out the episode)... (7)6(four) (talk) 01:54, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

I bet lots of people are going to be really happy about this, especially after what happened to our mane heroes during last season's finale!

TexasBro93 (talk) 20:02, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Re: This is getting personal


  1. Once again, you're under the impression that I have a personal vendetta toward you -- that you have "restrictions that no one else does". This is not true. My behavior toward you is no different than the way I would treat any other spam user.
  2. I am well aware that "people as sensitive as Fluttershy" exist. If you are such an individual, of course I sympathize with you. But I cannot let that affect my admin duties. I cannot give you special treatment.
  3. I have nothing to do with your decision to stop watching the show.

I've previously accused you of spamming comments related to Sombra, Chrysalis, villain deaths, villain redemptions, etc. The irony is that you've traded one form of parroted comment for another. Now, you continuously post comments censoring yourself, saying you "can't say this or that or else my comment will be deleted" or substituting "reformed" with "r-word", and the like.

If you want to post comments about stuff you want to comment about, I will not stop you. I have never tried to stop you from doing so. All I have ever encouraged you to do is to practice moderation. If, for any reason, I see you posting about the same things over and over again without any moderation, comment removal would likely be my go-to response. That's a personal issue, and I'll try to cut back on doing that. Nevertheless, I don't like spam, but I am not out to censor or silence you.

furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 22:35, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

When are you going to stop holding MLP to the standards of other properties, KillRoy? I still see almost nothing but death-related comments from you, particularly on Sombra's page. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 14:27, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
I wasn't trying to start that again, I just heard people make a comment about Digimon while researching the reception to Season 2, saying "people only act like Digimon Tamers is more mature because they feel insecure about watching a kids show" (but it is true that it gets darker from the moment Leomon dies), and thought it a bit contradictory to think that way about it yet also think that "there is no death in these kids shows" when Digimon doesn't shy away from that. That was all, you'll notice I have been trying to hold back on that, and keep them relevant when I do say it like the one about the Hippogriff King. Also that was the first time I'd been to Sombra's page in months, it was just one comment there. If Sombra does come back in the show, it won't be for THAT reason, it'll be coz fans want to see him again (or coz they're running out of ideas for new villains), and I'm sick of people pretending they've never seen kid-friendly shows that have done it. KillRoy231 (talk) 17:54, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

"Just as you have your levels of impatience (me talking about the same subjects often), I have mine."

I take issue with spamming of any kind and from anyone, not just from you, KillRoy. If you find yourself unable to think about anything other than the season 9 premiere until its airing (and can't keep from cluttering the comments with your theorizing and speculating), it would do you some good to focus on something else with which to occupy your time. Your claim that "I won't be able to watch another episode or listen to another song until I know how this goes down" is a personal issue that the Wiki can't help you with. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 03:45, March 24, 2019 (UTC)

I know, and I do try to exercise moderation with them, I wanted to give you an idea of how impatient I get waiting for stuff sometimes. I will try to find something else to focus on. KillRoy231 (talk) 17:03, March 24, 2019 (UTC)
And yet it seems the closer we get to the premiere, the more frequent your Sombra-related comments become - to the point where almost 40% of the amount of the comments in a single page are yours alone. It's almost an uncontrollable compulsion with you. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 16:38, April 4, 2019 (UTC)
These things happen when something long-awaited is really close, especially for one of my favorite shows, especially with the whole thing about his voice and possible explanations for it. I'm only human, and I thought you'd appreciate the last comment. KillRoy231 (talk) 18:51, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

"the advertisement for Season 8 shows Tartarus"

"No. It was made by a Twitter user." (7)6(four) (talk) 00:36, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

That's a relief - both that Tirek's not confirmed to be coming back, and that my new message wasn't someone giving me a hard time for my blog. KillRoy231 (talk) 00:40, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Ahh... I don't even know why I'm here...? This is totally irrelevant to MLP, but wow... you've made a lot of edits. My main wiki has 100 times the articles, and yet, I have only made ~600 edits! The total amount of edits made since the beginning of the wiki still do not add up to the amount that you've made. TheMagicalWonders (talk) 12:55, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Another block

Since you can't seem to take a hint, KillRoy231, I've been forced to block you again. When your comments are removed, that's not an invitation to repost said comments on other users' talk pages. They were removed for a reason.

"Sombra" this, "death" that, "Discontinuity" this, "headcanon" that... Despite my urging you to practice more moderation in making such posts, you've made no effort in doing so. Therefore, I'm afraid this is where we find ourselves. Sorry. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 05:11, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

Re: A request

We seem to have this back-and-forth more often than I'd like, KillRoy. If your most recent message on my talk page is your way of saying you're leaving the Wiki because of me, I'm not going to feel any guilt over it. As I've said before, your decision to leave (or not) is yours alone. Not once have I suggested that you should leave, so whatever "message" you feel I've conveyed is nonexistent.

In regards to (7)6(four), his messages on your talk page that "King Sombra is alive" have only been in response to your constant affirmations that "King Sombra is NOT alive" (as far as I know). But that's neither here nor there, and newcomers to the Wiki shouldn't have anything to do with it. The articles themselves bear enough information about characters being "alive or dead" already without it being drudged up in the comments time and again.

If you feel it necessary to leave, I won't stop you. I wish you the best with whatever you decide. But I reiterate: your decision to leave or stay has nothing to do with me. So if you do decide to leave, don't try to make it out to be my fault. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 23:51, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

A Health of Information

Fluttershy and Zecora in the swamp S7E20

This happens right at the beginning of the episode

Just leaving this here... (7)6(four) (talk) 12:56, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

In regards to S8/S9 information

Please read the Wiki's Community Messages. If you're looking for more detailed information, I suggest you look and ask elsewhere. Thank you. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 05:38, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

You're reaching conclusions about G5 based on unofficial knowledge and faulty/early-stage information. Please do not mistake this for official news and spread false info on the Wiki. You have a history of jumping the gun and accepting whatever information you come across as fact, regardless of who said it or where it came from. Thank you. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 02:01, February 24, 2019 (UTC)
So anything I have to go on that makes for positive predictions is unreliable, then. Back to the doom and gloom. (But wait, how many people who claim to have seen Season 9 leaks that I've been unable to back up might have been making it up? There are a few of those I hope are false) KillRoy231 (talk) 03:30, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

Young Six

Re: Talk:School Daze - Part 2/@comment-KillRoy231-20180325035825 & User blog:KillRoy231/Who is your favorite of the "Student Six?": "Young Six" according to Nicole Dubuc. (7)6(four) (talk) 19:31, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

"Young Six" confirmed by Jim Miller. Re: You can add {{Move}}. (7)6(four) (talk) 06:43, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Talk:School Daze - Part 2/@comment-1031724-20180603035537: No, Equestria Daily is just incorrectly using unofficial terminology instead of correctly using the official term. (7)6(four) (talk) 09:32, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Oh. That's rather unprofessional of them. KillRoy231 (talk) 18:00, June 3, 2018 (UTC)
Symbol support vote Support (7)6(four) (talk) 18:18, June 3, 2018 (UTC)
Wait, what? XD What are you even supporting? GoldenLine (talk) 18:20, June 3, 2018 (UTC)
Prioritizing accuracy regardless of popularity (see also User talk:(7)6(four)#Discussion on Derpibooru about pony names turns to mentioning the wiki, etc.), especially given the past (see User talk:Elunalis#Chrysalis, User talk:Pokemonmastercb#Re: Sombra, User talk:(7)6(four)#Is it really necessary?, User talk:Rystrouse renewed#Future Fears, User talk:(7)6(four)#Comics, etc.)—which, to paraphrase a song, today might not be the same as. (7)6(four) (talk) 19:14, June 3, 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I do firmly believe in keeping information accurate. Of course some people don't care about it. KillRoy231 (talk) 22:27, June 3, 2018 (UTC)
Well, yeah, that's pretty much a given. Young Six is all we have. GoldenLine (talk) 23:24, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Lord Tirek/@comment-15889853-20171109044118/@comment-1031724-20180509041828

See also: User talk:(7)6(four)#Is it really necessary? and User talk:ImperfectXIII/Archive 25#DHX

(7)6(four) (talk) 00:32, May 10, 2018 (UTC)


Re: Talk:A Matter of Principals/@comment-1031724-20180729012455/@comment-1031724-20180729172434 & Talk:The Storm King/@comment-1031724-20180723010933/@comment-1031724-20180730004326: (7)6(four) (talk) 09:16, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

The Dazzlings

See also: User blog comment:Kilmarnock228/Inconsistencies, Part 1: They Exist/@comment-7345250-20180702132121/@comment-29981995-20180702184143 and User talk:(7)6(four)#Comics 2

Re: "Shadow Play proves the comics are non-canon" & "Comics are non-canon. They and the episode Shadow Play depicted the Dazzlings' banishment differently.": No, between My Little Pony: FIENDship is Magic Issue #3, Shadow Play - Part 2, and My Little Pony: Legends of Magic Issue #12, only FIENDship is Magic Issue 3 doesn't match; Legends of Magic Issue 12 does match. (7)6(four) (talk) 11:28, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

Well that's Legends of Magic. They're different from the others. KillRoy231 (talk) 19:37, August 25, 2018 (UTC)
The only comics that aren't "different from the others" are the ones that consist of previously-published material. (7)6(four) (talk) 07:20, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough. But that "previously-published material" includes Sombra's revival and the Amore scene suggesting the Storm King survived. I cannot stress enough how much both their deaths mean to me - Sombra coz he first showed villains can die in this show and it doesn't consider itself below G1 or classic Disney movies, and the Storm King coz it made the movie feel like a classic Disney movie and have a proportionately climactic ending. KillRoy231 (talk) 17:55, August 26, 2018 (UTC) (7)6(four) (talk) 20:04, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
I'm well aware of the difference. Like, non-Legends comics are non-canon vs. Non-Compete Clause and a handful of other Season 8 episodes are non-canon to me. The latter are officially canon, I simply FanonDiscontinuity them out of my headcanon. If Grogar revives Sombra in Season 9 and he is not re-killed, then he'll officially be alive in show canon and the only thing I can do about that is FanonDiscontinuity the season. Of course you'd probably argue he merely summoned an apparition or cloned him - which in turn would give me a weapon to combat Sombra's revival myself. I think we'd actually both benefit from that headcanon in our own way.
No offense, but it sounds to me though like you might be the one defining canon by "what you like". You really like the non-Legends comics and headcanon that they are show canon, even though due to inconsistencies, they're their own parallel canon separate from the show with similar events and different physics and such. There's "show canon" and then there's "comic canon", and the Legends comics are show canon, separate from the other comics. It's like Marvel comics vs. MCU tie-in comics. (Also, I like some of the comics and the DBZ movies which I know are non-canon to the anime)
You want to go by your explanations and say they - except the overwhelming Dazzlings comic - take place in show canon, in your headcanon? That's perfectly fine. I respect that. Just don't try to force me to do the same. That's what I was getting at with the "how much their deaths mean to me", people use the comics as an excuse to try to take away some of the very few things I ever asked for in this show. I am one of the show's least demanding fans. KillRoy231 (talk) 01:52, August 28, 2018 (UTC)
I don't necessarily "really like the non-Legends comics and headcanon that they are show canon"; I still don't even know whether I like My Little Pony (the franchise itself: toys, show, films, comics, storybooks, etc.). And inconsistencies don't automatically divide canon:
"We all do our best to try and keep thing straight and consistent, but with almost 200 episodes, and all the ancillary books, comics and ephemera, it can be tricky. Things can fall through the cracks. And sometimes the story necessitates bending things a little."
Jim Miller
Anyway, between My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Issue #53, Uncommon Bond, My Little Pony: Legends of Magic Issue #6, and Shadow Play - Part 1, only Legends of Magic Issue 6 doesn't match. Also, "I didn't like most Season 8 episodes, but there were some good enough to get my acknowledgement" doesn't sound like something "one of the show's least demanding fans" would say (unless by "least demanding fans" you just mean "fans who don't make demands" rather than "fans who aren't picky"). (7)6(four) (talk) 08:30, August 28, 2018 (UTC)
I just felt like some of the Season 8 episodes just weren't written well. Some were all right, though, but Season 8 is the first season I did this with. The show is losing its touch, at least in my opinion. KillRoy231 (talk) 15:47, August 28, 2018 (UTC)
And, to show how I can put up with just about anything else the show does or could possibly do besides the badly-written episodes and (if it ever happens) retconning those two deaths that mean a lot to me, here's a list of stuff the show did that I disliked but I can put up with it:
  • Chrysalis being left on the loose forever, first and foremost. I'm sure you remember how badly I wanted her dead but I've accepted it will never happen except in my fanon.
  • Not getting a real villain in Princess Twilight Sparkle or a Sombra flashback in place of a poorly-written subplot, after waiting so long for it
  • Snowstorm being the villain conflict in the Season 6 premier, essentially playing the same role as Sombra
  • Tirek just being reimprisoned in Tartarus, even though it was played like a "blasted to oblivion" and, given their weapon, should have been, he wasn't, making the epic DBZ style fight seem less climactic than if he'd ended up like his G1 counterpart.
  • Reasoned that the fans were disappointed about Sombra and they wanted to be able to reuse Tirek again down the road, which they did. Which wasn't an issue with the Storm King because of the big voice actors. They can leave him alive if they want, I just want the kings' deaths to stick, and if I want a dead Tirek, there's a creepier one in G1.
  • Likewise, I'd have preferred if the Dazzlings had physically turned into their siren forms and been disintegrated, I'll call that the Maleficent effect since they wouldn't have died in their human forms. Even though I have my No Immortal Inertia theory, they kinda played that battle in a less climactic way than they could have.
  • And basically the repetitive story of Gloriosa Daisy rather than having an actual Gaea Everfree from Equestria
  • On playing things the wrong way, they did two Indiana Jones references wrong that just about every other show that did those references (like Shrek) got right. (I mentioned it on Read it and Weep's comments)
  • 28 Pranks Later, both Rainbow's prank on Fluttershy that Pinkie was insensitive about (both disregaring their Season 1 agreement to never prank Fluttershy), and the whoopee cushion prank essentially canonizing something I wanted left out of MLP.
  • Discord not being much fun in some of his later episodes
  • Rainbow Dash and Rarity fighting in The End in Friend before a bigger friendship between them could be established
  • Not reforming Lightning Dust
  • Silverstream not doing anything with her tail (she's one of my favorite characters and I love tails)
All that and more I can and have put up with, and I didn't even dislike Twilight becoming an alicorn, nor was I disappointed they banished the Shadow that turned Stygian into the Pony of Shadows rather than destroying him. Much less complain about all the redemptions they did, as many have. KillRoy231 (talk) 02:37, August 30, 2018 (UTC)

Re: "Can we just say that, aside from Legends of Magic and the movie tie-ins, it's a parallel reality to the show's universe and be done with it? (though it still upsets me that Chrysalis killed a kitten)": Most other comics still aren't less canon than those; your headcanon might segregate the show and comics (and other official works)' shared continuity, but remember you've previously criticized me some times I insisted on what you thought was my headcanon. (And again, neither a cat nor necessarily killed.) (7)6(four) (talk) 21:49, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

I assume then you read a certain rumor about Season 9 that will contradict the comics greatly if it is true. What will your reaction be if it comes true? KillRoy231 (talk) 23:56, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
Increased disappointment in whoever's job it is to maintain franchise-wide consistency (especially given how recently Hasbro let Siege of the Crystal Empire be adapted within Gameloft's mobile game), unless further context (from any one or more official works) prevents it from being a continuity error. (7)6(four) (talk) 01:31, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Apple damning

Given User blog:KillRoy231/What's your favorite part of each episode? (regarding Applejack in Look Before You Sleep), I thought I should point out to you Talk:Ponyville Mysteries Issue 4/@comment-5837525-20180829152144 (regarding Apple Bloom in My Little Pony: Ponyville Mysteries Issue #4). (7)6(four) (talk) 07:37, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

Lol KillRoy231 (talk) 09:00, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

Question I’d Like to Ask

Would you happen to have an account?Austin012599 (talk) 18:13, September 16, 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Friendship is Magic animated media/@comment-5375446-20190127191307/@comment-1031724-20190127192216

Re: Obligatory correction that Sombra's been fully back since Siege of the Crystal Empire. For some perspective, isn't the drop from "headcanon not explicitly contradicted by anything" (Chrysalis, 2012; Sombra, 2012-2015) to "headcanon explicitly contradicted by some comics" (Chrysalis, 2012-2016; Sombra, 2015-present) more significant than the drop after that to "headcanon explicitly contradicted by some comics and some episodes" (Chrysalis, 2016-present; Sombra, potentially)? (7)6(four) (talk) 21:35, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

You do realize that if he were to be revived by Grogar in Season 9, that would directly contradict the comics in itself, since he's obviously still alive and reformed in the comics. KillRoy231 (talk) 23:57, January 27, 2019 (UTC)
Even that wouldn't necessarily contradict; given File:Sombra regenerating horn S3E2.png, something along the lines of fragmentation could allow for separate instances (one revived by Radiant Hope, one hypothetically revived by Grogar) to coexist. (7)6(four) (talk) 00:47, January 28, 2019 (UTC)
That does actually make sense. I have a similar theory for the time remnants of Reverse Flash in The Flash. Pulled from different points in the timeline while his future actions remain intact, that Legends Season 2 and Flash Season 4 time remnants of Reverse Flash are separate from Flash Season 1, but have the same past, split from the same character, if it makes sense. (like the two Austin Powers) KillRoy231 (talk) 21:19, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Fish Fuel

Re: "'fish fuel' (can't say the full name)": Callofduty4 has said the full name. (7)6(four) (talk) 15:08, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Ah. I wasn't sure if you could or not, since others have used the abbreviation thinking you couldn't. KillRoy231 (talk) 21:17, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

The Dazzlings are alive

Re: "The Dazzlings [...] may [...] be dead of No Immortal Inertia": Equestria Girls digital content's earlier-released novelization My Little Pony: Equestria Girls: Make Your Own Magic: Starswirl Do-Over reveals they're still alive. (Your willful misreferring to another currently-alive character as dead obfuscates whether you're doing a similar thing regarding the Dazzlings or genuinely unaware they're also alive.) (7)6(four) (talk) 03:00, February 20, 2019 (UTC)

Chapter books are non-canon due to overwhelming plot holes. (But even if they weren't, I wasn't aware of that book) And you're still trying to push on me your view of the comics. Please, stop. KillRoy231 (talk) 07:06, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
What overwhelming plot holes does this chapter book have? Anyway, since it's an adaptation (like A Friendship to Remember being an adaptation of Forgotten Friendship), what happens in it has a high chance of happening in upcoming animated media. (7)6(four) (talk) 16:48, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
There's a chapter book that depicts Twilight as a princess and Trixie as a villain, when Trixie reformed before Twilight became a princess. But if it is an adaptation of an upcoming episode, then they are really still alive. (Though I might be inclined to FanonDiscontinuity it if I don't like how it's handled, but at least then I'll acknowledge their survival as official canon.) KillRoy231 (talk) 02:33, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
But it sounds like this is one of those "Choose Your Own Ending" digital series, which may not be canon anyway. Still, if you want it to be, nothing's stopping you from that. (like the Summertime Shorts are debated due to Ray not appearing in the show, but I at least go by Monday Blues as canon) KillRoy231 (talk) 02:34, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
That first chapter book has that plot hole, but the second chapter book got acknowledged in the show.
Some of the memories shown in Forgotten Friendship are from Choose Your Own Ending. (According to Ishi Rudell, the non-musical Summertime Shorts being products of Boulder Media is why Ray hasn't been in any products of DHX Media.) (7)6(four) (talk) 17:51, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
Consider the fact that I'm not trying to force YOU to go by the Sombra comic as non-canon, which over half the fans do at this point. I respect your interest in it and will let you keep whatever explanations you have in mind. Though ironically, if Sombra gets revived, we will both headcanon that he was merely cloned, but for different reasons. KillRoy231 (talk) 07:16, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
I'm quite used to disagreeing with common fandom belief(s); I recall you mentioning how Magical Mystery Cure fandom controversy negatively affected you, but what ruined the fandom for me was even earlier, back when people with excessive attachment to fanon wouldn't accept mystery pack wave 3 starting to officially overturn fan-popularized names for characters ('Carrot Top' Golden Harvest, before later materials confirmed her in-show identity and established "Carrot Top" as her official in-universe nickname; "Berry Punch" Berryshine, before later materials established "Berry Punch" as her secondary official name and confirmed her in-show identity; Lyra Heartstrings, before later materials established "Lyra Heartstrings" as her full official name and confirmed her in-show identity; "Blues" Noteworthy, before later materials confirmed his in-show identity). (7)6(four) (talk) 16:48, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
Oh. Well, I can kinda sympathize with you there coz I also have some unpopular opinions. (Besides my interest in villain deaths, I love Rainbow Dash, and don't mind Starlight, and outside of MLP, I like the Tim Burton Batman series and Thor: The Dark World, while disliking the Dark Knight Trilogy and (on a lesser scale) Captain America: Civil War. I think having unpopular opinions is something we have in common and I hope the revelation of this can make us a bit closer and more understanding of each other. KillRoy231 (talk) 02:37, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
I wouldn't call Rainbow Dash or Starlight Glimmer unpopular; being among multiple main (Rainbow Dash)/major (Starlight Glimmer) characters, they're bound to have both fans and haters. (7)6(four) (talk) 17:51, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
Like, neither of us is ever going to change our mind about this, so let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that. I really want him dead (and have issues with the comics fitting in anyway), you really love his comic. I get it, and I don't leave a message on YOUR talkpage saying "comics are non-canon" every time you mention Sombra's revival and redemption anywhere else. KillRoy231 (talk) 07:21, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
I don't love that comic; I haven't read (most of) it, so I haven't formed a proper opinion regarding it. (7)6(four) (talk) 16:48, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
Oh. I don't know why you keep bringing it up then, unless you're just trying to take away satisfying moments for me (some users actually thought you worded Chrysalis's article the way you did out of spite, even though she did actually survive that fall). Whatever your reason, can you please stop bringing it up? I know you go by them as canon (with headcanons to explain all possible inconsistencies), and I don't. I just go by the show and movies, so only an episode featuring Sombra's revival (without it possibly being able to be a clone) could mean he's 100% alive in show canon. Which, I admit, I might be inclined to FanonDiscontinuity (due to how much the moment means to me), but then it actually would be that and I'd acknowledge it as such.
Jim Miller even said it's up to us whether Equestria Girls is canon (which I take it as), so that would refer to the comics as well, which are essentially fanfiction licensed to be put on the market, as all IDW comics are. You go by them if you want, I'll not go by them, let's just accept that and not try to convince each other to turn aside from our current opinion. I've heard your view of the comics' canonicity and Sombra's status multiple times, I don't need to hear it again every single time I mention him, or when you get a hint to the survival of some other presumed-deceased villain. If a comic brings back the Storm King or the Mean 6, keep it to yourself and don't use it to mention Sombra again.
The Dazzlings thing would've been fine if you'd mentioned it being a possible adaptation instead of something like the Crystal Heart Spell, and if you'd left Sombra out of it. So, if an upcoming EG episode brings back Midnight Sparkle, keep it about her and leave Sombra out of it. KillRoy231 (talk) 02:33, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
It's pretty much the same deal as the "names from toys override fanon" thing I mentioned above, just with "status from comics" instead of "names from toys"; in other words, business like it's been since before Chrysalis or Sombra were even introduced.
The only official MLP material that isn't "essentially fanfiction licensed to be put on the market" is what's made directly by Hasbro itself, such as the toys; DHX Media is separate from Hasbro, though Boulder Media is Hasbro-owned.
I mentioned it being a novelization, which is a type of adaptation; I basically always point its nature out when I bring it up (since I've seen some people mistake Forgotten Friendship as being based on A Friendship to Remember). (7)6(four) (talk) 17:51, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
Well, again, comics haven't really been acknowledged by the show, whatever anyone's explanations to make them fit in. They are official material licensed by Hasbro, but they're not from DHX, who write the show. You go by them as canon, I and most other fans don't, that's perfectly fine, I just don't need you to keep telling me "Sombra's alive coz comics are canon" every time I mention his death, that's kinda spam and I find it annoying. I know your view on the matter, and you'll never change mine. KillRoy231 (talk) 20:37, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
DHX doesn't write the show. (7)6(four) (talk) 21:05, February 21, 2019 (UTC)

Hope you two don't mind me throwing in a couple bits. I think you both make valid points regarding your view on the matter of what is or isn't canon, or at least what each of you considers to be canon or not. I can see both sides of the argument, and think you've both stated your opinions quite clearly. I would also say that it's good to just step back and remember that we're all on this wiki to discuss an entertainment franchise, and I don't think it's anything to get heated over.

(7)6(four), I think KillRoy231 has been very reasonable about the whole Sombra issue. If one confines oneself to the show and films, as many are apt to do, then Sombra is technically dead. Personally, I'm with you on considering the extra media-or as much of it as possible-canon, but I don't think we need to go on about it. Now, I'll also say that as the series is (currently) ongoing, that could change before things are over and done with.

The real point I'm trying to make is that I hope the two of you can move on from this, um, "passionate discussion" with no ill feelings. In two years we'll probably all be devoting our energy to some other fandom anyway, so why make a thing of this? You both have different opinions, and as we learned from Stranger Than Fan Fiction that is perfectly okay. Hope life is going well for you both.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 04:43, February 22, 2019 (UTC)

Well written, and I hope we can too. KillRoy231 (talk) 17:17, February 22, 2019 (UTC)

Here we are again

It seems that no matter what other users say to alleviate your concerns, KillRoy, you keep finding a way to look on the dark side of things. You always find something to worry yourself about - whether it be the state of the series' release on home media or how a particular episode or episodes will be critically received. Why you insist on repeatedly doing so to yourself is truly beyond me.

I'm afraid I must be frank with you: we are not here to constantly hold your hand and tell you everything is going to be okay. I understand how difficult it is for someone with your state of mind to be optimistic, to look on the bright side. But if you really do suffer from anxiety issues, I strongly urge you to see a specialist. Speak to someone who is trained to help people like you.

We are not your therapists, and the comments are not the best forum for you to air your concerns in an extended manner. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 02:57, August 16, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry if it's getting annoying. But it is specific to things like this for now based on the whole Shout Factory thing, and how Hasbro forced MA Larson to write Fame and Misfortune, and how much I really want it all to turn out coz I'm so passionate about it. People here might not know about anxiety issues and stuff but some might know more about what is or might go on with MLP. And if you saw my most recent blog, some of them did successfully reassure me about the Mane 6 ruling Equestria, and for the first time since Season 6's finale I'm confident Chrysalis will either die or reform. The "people will be disappointed" comment was more casual, actually. If the anxiety thing gets bigger with stuff outside of MLP, though, I'll keep your advice in mind. KillRoy231 (talk) 03:36, August 16, 2019 (UTC)
Another contributing factor to me feeling negative is sometimes feeling alone with unpopular opinions and getting a hard time for them. But I am starting to feel better than before, as I said, because that's kinda been dying down lately and I have two people to talk to about stuff, one on fimfiction and one on Disney Wiki. KillRoy231 (talk) 04:16, August 16, 2019 (UTC)

In regards to S9 episodes 22-26

I had a feeling you would be one of the users I'd have to warn, but please try to observe the Wiki's Community Messages and Forum:The final episodes and the Wiki. Even teasing at certain characters' fates without giving any details can be a spoiler. Thank you. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 05:33, August 27, 2019 (UTC)

Well, I was trying to leave out any details. But I'll keep that in mind. I hope there's no hard feelings. KillRoy231 (talk) 07:27, August 27, 2019 (UTC)
That first sentence sounded a little harsh though. I wasn't going to reveal anything for real, I just didn't know how absolute this was. KillRoy231 (talk) 07:41, August 27, 2019 (UTC)

My Little Pony: Essential Handbook: A Magical Guide for Everypony

Re: "Is the MLP Essential Handbook out in America or was it really cancelled?": "Ships from and sold by" Re: "I think this whole MLP Essential Handbook thing was either fake or cancelled. There is no sign it's been released anywhere.": "In stock. Dispatched from and sold by Amazon." (7)6(four) (talk) 12:26, September 12, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I ordered it now. KillRoy231 (talk) 16:42, September 12, 2019 (UTC)



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