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1.     Colors of magic auras and whether they can change

During season one, the colors of individual characters' magic auras were often inconsistent from episode to episode; for example,

Princess Celestia's magical glow varies throughout season one but is consistently yellow in “Lesson Zero” and “A Canterlot Wedding - Part 2” as well as in season four's new opening sequence.

Rarity's aura is blue in most of her appearances, but it is pink in Look Before You Sleep and also when Rarity cuts off her tail in Part 2 of Mare in the Moon.

Twilight’s aura changes from a light pinkish-purple to a deep magenta colour in season 2 episode “Lesson Zero

Now, can there be any in-universe explanation for this? My theory was maybe the colour of their auras have something to do with their experience. As they get older and more experienced, their aura colour changes to reflect this. But if that’s the case, is it possible for a unicorn’s magic aura colour to fluctuate between dark and light colours before finally changing? I say this because I headcanon that (at least for the first 3 episodes), the air-order of the episodes does not necessarily depict the chronological order of events. I referred to this article () which tries to make a chronological order of the episodes, but in doing so, they have mixed up episodes from season 1 and season 2. Now that would mean taht season 1 episodes which come after “Lesson Zero” would have Twilight with light aura instead of the deep magenta coloured aura. Can you think of any logic behind this?

I also theorized that sometimes the magical aura changes colour to reflect a change in the pony’s personality. For instance, in the first Equestria Girls movie, Sunset's magic aura was cyan (greenish-blue). That is a perfect representation of her envy, sensitive, and moody personality as her being a villain back then. But the second she came back to Equestria (“Mirror Magic”), her aura was red. It shows that she had been developed as a fully-reformed character, such as self-control, ambition, courage, energetic, etc.

While these theories may apply to Sunset Twilight or Rarity, I can’t think of any reason why Celestia’s aura would change color! She’s over a thousand years old and has more wisdom and experience than anypony else in Equestria.  Neither have we seen a change in her personality. So what could be the reason for that?

'2.     'Are Magic Auras Visible?

I’m just going to copy-paste the post here for your convenience. You can also check out the actual post using this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/MLPAnalysis/comments/1hcags/are_magic_auras_visible/

In MLP:FiM, Unicorn magic produces a colored aura which appears both around the horn of the Unicorn casting the spell and around any object which is being affected by that spell. Something that’s not been made clear by the show is whether these colored auras are clearly visible or if they are an audience convenience and the magical effect is invisible. Based on what we’ve seen in the show, it seems to me that magical auras are in fact invisible.

Basically there are three possibilities:

1.      Magic auras are in fact clearly visible to anypony.

2.      Magic auras can be “seen” but only by magic users like Unicorns or Alicorns.

3.      Magic auras are an audience convenience and undetectable to ponies.

For the first possibility there are two episodes which seem to demonstrate magic auras aren’t generally visible. In “Winter Wrap Up” when Twilight enchants the snowplough with the come-to-life spell, Applejack doesn’t notice the spell even though to the entire plough is surrounded by a purple glow. Applejack clearly has her suspicions magic is being used but she doesn’t seem to be able to see it.

Even more interesting is “MMMMystery on the Friendship Express”. There Rarity sneaks past Pinkie’s guard by using her magic to pull down the blinds and darken the room. When we the audience see this scene unfold from inside Pinkie’s head, we don’t see the Rarity’s magical aura the way we normally would from our usual audience viewpoint. Thus it seems pretty definitive that Pinkie (and by extension other Earth ponies) cannot see magical auras.

But maybe magical auras are visible to spell casters? That would seem logical, that magic users could sense when magic was used in their vicinity. However once again the show seems to indicate otherwise - specifically in “A Canterlot Wedding”. Twilight, Celestia, and Shining Armour all fail to detect the change in “Cadance’s” magic aura which would otherwise have revealed her as an impostor. So unless everypony has blue-green color blindness it appears magic users can’t see magical auras either. Spell casters might have some means of detecting magic, but they clearly can’t identify it as easily as we the audience can.

So it appears that the colored magical auras are in fact an audience convenience and Equestria isn’t full of magical light shows.

I was re-watching "Green Isn't Your Color" recently and something occurred to me. During Fluttershy's final runway appearance Twilight "puppets" Fluttershy with her magic in order to make everypony think Fluttershy is no longer graceful. That plan wouldn't make any sense if magical auras were visible. And since unicorns were a part of the audience it appears magic auras are indeed not visible to ponies.

I would really love to hear your thoughts on this topic!

'3.     'The Princess’s flowing manes

This is based on my headcanon that the show and the comics share the same universe. When Nightmare Moon transformed back into Luna at the end of the premiere, she was in her de-powered state.

By the episode “Luna Eclipsed”, we’ve seen Luna in her fully-powered state with a dark coat and a sparkly flowing mane like her sister’s.

Buuuut.....here’s the catch. In IDW’s “Nightmare Rarity” arc, we see Luna in her de-powered state, and she only becomes her fully-powered self during the course of the comic. One might be tempted to place the events of this comic before “Luna Eclipsed”, but there are reasons why taht is not possible:

·         A reformed Trixie helps in the final battle against Nightmare Rarity, which suggests that the events are set after the Season 3 episode “Magic Duel”.

·         Another reason is that had this been set before “Luna Eclipsed”, Luna would have spoken in “Shakespearean Ponish” using the “Royal we” and her royal voice. But she does not. Which indicates that this story-arc occurs after that episode.

Now I have a little (half-baked) theory as to why Luna reverts to her de-powered state again during the beginning of this arc, and I’d like your opinions on that.

My theory is taht the flowing manes are a result of a ponies’ incredible magical talent – whether they’re a unicorn like Mistmane or alicorns like the Princesses. We’ve seen the Princess’ manes stop moving when Tirek, and later Cozy Glow absorbed their magic or when they feel thoroughly depressed (Princess Luna’s mane stopped moving temporarily in the episode “A Royal Problem” when she saw in the paper that her scowling had resulted in the school ponies missing out on their field trip). Maybe something similar happened here. Luna, who had only just adjusted to living like a Princess, and not long after her not-so-welcome reception during Nightmare Nights was already in a very vulnerable state of mind. When she saw the return of the Nightmare forces kidnap Rarity, she sunk into despair and felt so hopeless taht her mane stopped flowing and her coat turned light (kinda like the hopeless magic that took over the residents of Hope Hollow after the rainbow generator blew up in the “Rainbow Roadtrip” special”).

What do you think about this theory? I’d love to hear your thoughts!

 Dreamstar Moonlight (talk) 17:25, August 20, 2020 (UTC) Dreamstar Moonlight


Some things I thought I'd point out:
  1. Of the many inconsistent colors of magic auras, Twilight Sparkle's aura color change is indirectly acknowledged via newly-animated past scenes using her old aura color, and Sunset Shimmer's aura color change has been explained (similarly to your theory) by Katrina Hadley.
  2. In Fundamentals of Magic#Types of Magic, Celestia mentions "the signature color of our magical auras".
  3. The show and the comics sharing the same universe is more than headcanon (even though Hasbro didn't do the best job about it).
I hope I'm not butting in. (7)6(four) (talk) 18:53, August 20, 2020 (UTC)


Hey there, (7)6(four), thank you so much for the links - they confirmed a great deal - especially regarding the change in Sunset's magic aura colour, and whether or not ponies can actually see the magic auras.

And although, the show referenced the change in Twilight’s aura, it still doesn’t explain whether or not the colour of the aura takes a while to change - as in, whether or not the colour frequently changes from a light purple to a deep magenta for a few days before permanently settling to a deep magenta (which would explain the inconsistency of the aura colours when the episodes are arranged in a chronological order and not in air-date order).

It also doesn’t explain why Princess Celestia’s colour would change all of a sudden. Unless of course you go with the theory that maybe Celestia’s magical aura had been something else prior to Princess Luna’s return, because she’d missed her sister and felt like a part of her was missing all those years. So even after her return, the colour of Celestia’s aura too began to change to a bright golden yellow – the colour of the warmth (like the Sun) – because she felt whole again after reuniting with her sister. Of course, that change would take a while to manifest (just like in Twilight’s case), so her colour frequently changed between golden yellow and some other colour before permanently becoming yellow. Again if that were the case, it’d explain the inconsistency when season 1 & season 2 episodes featuring Celestia get mixed up, when the events are arranged in chronological order.

What do you think about this theory? Also do you guys agree with my theory regarding why Luna reverted to her depowered state in the “Nightmare Rarity” story-arc?

Feel free to comment, both you and Kilmarnock228 and anyone else who might be interested!

Dreamstar Moonlight (talk) 05:48, August 21, 2020 (UTC)Dreamstar Moonlight


Another couple topics I can’t say I’ve really thought about...
Those early season episodes do make it seem as though magical auras weren’t visible to ponies. Of course, perhaps unicorns are capable of concealing their aura if they feel so inclined? As for the Chrysalis/Cadance situation, I wonder if it’s possible that different types of magic can produce different colors. After all, Celestia’s aura resembled Sombra’s when she temporarily tapped into her darker emotions in The Crystal Empire - Part 1. Also, was there really any instance where Celestia was present when “Cadance” was spell casting?
Of course, the simplest answer is that the show creators didn’t consider these types of things due to the show’s intended audience, and that certain inconsistencies have cropped up as the series evolved.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 20:53, September 3, 2020 (UTC)

Dragon Quest: Dragon Lands?

In the episode Dragon Quest, we see Spike following the dragon migration until he reaches what appears to be the Dragon Lands. Looking at the map of Equestria (20170804_105525.jpg), you can see just how far the Dragon Lands are from Ponyville. It would take weeks to get there on foot! But the episode seems to hint it didn’t take Spike more than a couple of days to get there. And I hardly think Twilight and the others would travel weeks in that ridiculous get-up without spike noticing. And wouldn’t Spike get dead tired walking day in and day out weeks and weeks? And moreover, how on earth did he manage to keep up with those flying dragons on foot? Wouldn’t they have passed by before Spike could take a few steps? And at the end of the episode, when Twilight and the others teleport themselves out of danger – surely they didn’t teleport all the way from the Dragon Lands to Ponyville? But the episode makes it look like it wasn’t that far  after all.

 

All this leads me to question whether the place in the episode we saw really were the Dragon lands or was it just a pit-stop for the dragons? Somewhere not so far from Ponyville.

 

Even if that were the case, there aren’t any snowy mountains near Ponyville. But the episode shows Spike journeying across snowy mountains, rivers and forests. The rivers and forests I can put down to somewhere close to Ponyville, but I have no idea where those mountains came from. Unless those were the Crystal Mountains, and Spike really did go to the Dragon Lands by that route. Which begs the question: how long as he gone? Did Twilight help Spike along the way, unbeknownst to him? By teleporting them all in many bursts whenever Spike (probably) took a small nap or something? That would explain why Spike never lost sight of the dragons even though he was walking most of the way.

 

I’d really love your thoughts on this matter!

Dreamstar Moonlight (talk) 10:11, September 3, 2020 (UTC)Dreamstar Moonlight


Well, part of the issue may lie in timing. The episode came out in 2012, three years before the map. I doubt there even was a map back in the day, and certainly many locations on the later one would not have been on it. That being said, there appear to be a number of snowy mountains Spike could have passed though without going anywhere near the former/future site of the Crystal Empire. To me it seems likely that he did one of two things: traveled by train at least part of the way offscreen, or took a ship part of the way offscreen.
Based on the latter theory, I would guess Spike headed east out of Ponyville and crossed over Rambling Rock Ridge, eventually reaching Fillydelphia or Baltimare where he boarded a ship. This got him to the Dragon Lands, where he got a raft ride from Cranky to help him along as well. Finally he arrives at the volcanos, having presumably caught up to the flocking dragons with his water travels. At least based on the wiki screenshots, there’s no actual evidence that he kept them in sight the entire length of his travels.
As for the train travel theory, if he took that route the 2015 map indicates he could have gotten at least as far as Griffonstone-farther if you consider the existence of the train line and station from Sounds of Silence. It’s possible, then, that he traveled on foot the remainder of the way. Even the more detailed maps of the series locations seem fairly basic-there’s plenty of information missing. The maps in general seem to be more art pieces than complete guides to navigating the various locations.
As for his pony pursuers, it seems likely that they followed him at a distance, during which time Rarity presumably created the costume before they eventually donned in in the Dragon Lands. That would explain why the outfit seems so hodgepodge, despite Rarity’s demonstrated skills as a seamstress. As for the return to Ponyville, we don’t really know the limits of pony teleportation so it’s within the realm of possibility. Looking at future seasons, Twilight seems to have been able to teleport herself from Canterlot to the Crystal Empire, and herself and the rest of her friends back again with little trouble.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 20:53, September 3, 2020 (UTC)

That's very well thought-out indeed! I'm inclined to agree with you. Buuut....I just found another catch - somethig that's not worth worrying about.

We see in the episode Ddragon Quest that Spike rescued the phoenix egg from the woods that were quite close to the Dragon Lands. So that's Peewee's birthplace. We also see Spike returning Peewee to his parents in  aphoto-frame in the episode "Just for Sidekicks". So unless, Spike trvelled all the way to the Dragon Lands to do that - which isn't possible if you try to squeeze the entire first 3 seasons into 1 year, I rather think the place Spike visited in this episode was merely just a pit-stop for the Dragons, somewhere close to Ponyville. But it is certainly possible if you assume Spike took a train or ship all the way or if Twilight teleported them, in which case he'd be able to return Peewee and be back in Ponyville within the same day.There is no way that he managed to travel to the Dragon Lands and back in the course of a single day on foot.

Also, we see in the episode Molt Down that Rarity and Spike visited the woods again. Spike even met a grown-up  Peewee. And when Peewee stried to 'hug' Spike, it irritated his stone scale. When Rarity suggests seeing Zecora, but Spike is certain his stone scale will clear up after 'a good night's sleep'. We then see Spike the following morning in Twlight's castle. It's perfectly possible to teleport or take a ship or train for most of the way,at least.

So either way, your theory fits! Dreamstar Moonlight (talk) 16:42, September 4, 2020 (UTC)Dreamstar Moonlight

Another thought occurs to me: perhaps the travelers could have employed some kind of magic portal, akin to those Chancellor Neighsay could open with his amulet or that the final three villains were able to open with the power stolen from Grogar.
By the way, did you see my comments under the section on auras?--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 04:15, September 7, 2020 (UTC)
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