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No objections is not the same as a user consensus. That's why it's called forum discussion: you discuss it with other users, not with yourself. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 19:49, September 1, 2017 (UTC)

The forums aren't paid attention to 24/7; not every forum thread created is going to get its due attention (the fact that so many are being created in a short span of time doesn't help matters) furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 20:37, September 1, 2017 (UTC)
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Jonny_Manz?diff=1893808&oldid=1889118
For the record, I was not opposed to your proposal of adding a "Historical figures" section to the characters template. I was opposed to its implementation without user discussion and consensus. That is why such proposals are made through the forums to begin with: to prevent any one user from making drastic changes to the Wiki with their own (often misguided) discretion. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 22:50, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
It sounds nice in theory, but it seems like-at least when I've made proposals in the forum-people either don't both to look at them or, if they do, don't even have the courtesy to voice their opposition to a proposal. While I understand the principal, I also can't say that I feel my particular action was all that drastic-it seems as logical, if not more so, than adding a section to the character template for the Pear family-which currently amounts to a mere two characters without an article for the family itself-and I don't recall any discussion taking place with regards to that.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 23:12, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
If any changes are made to templates without discussion, it's usually either out of common sense (such as adding new episodes to episode templates) or by administrators, who are trusted enough to follow their own discretion. Admins, after all, have the final say in all matters on the Wiki. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 23:33, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

In response to your things you want

  • "Big Mac becoming an Alicorn for real-or at least A male Alicorn." - Not happening.
  • "Scootaloo's parents...especially in the wake of Parental Glideance" - I'd rather see an episode where she learns to fly at the most.
  • "I'm not the only one who feels this way, but they should really put the kibosh on Spike's crush on Rarity-and he already has a great alternative." - In this situation, Spike could also help Fluttershy overcome her fear of dragons so she can befriend Ember.
  • "Wouldn't it be cool if this Pinkie Pie clone turned into Pizza Pie? (It'd be nice if we could get that pic of her too)" - I'd rather have an episode where Pinkie Pie takes the Crusaders to Manehattan on a Filly Guides scouting adventure to meet that city's CMCs.
  • "On the subject of Parental Glideance, it'd be nice to know what Rainbow Blaze's deal is now that we know he's not Dash's dad-I'm thinking brother or uncle." - Isn't Rainbow Dash an only child in her family?
  • "Granny Smith's husband and Grand Pear's wife-seriously, where were they during The Perfect Pear?" - I have no idea, but we'll probably never know anyway.

FirePuppy (talk) 22:14, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Archives

Talk page archives aren't freely editable once they're created. (Note the message box at the top of the archive page that says "Do not edit the contents of this page.) It's recommended that you keep other users' messages on your talk page until it gets long enough to necessitate the creation of another archive. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 22:50, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

So I'm not allowed to edit my own archive page? Is there anything else I shouldn't be editing, or do you want to save yourself the trouble of telling me and just permanently ban me now? The way I saw it our discussion was closed-I certainly don't expect that anything's going to happen to change your opinion-and didn't see the point of keeping it on the main talk page.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 22:53, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
Moving messages back and forth between your talk page and your archive defeats the whole purpose of having an archive. There's no need to be so cynical. Just because a discussion is "closed" doesn't mean it should just be archived and forgotten. You can check out this Wikia Community page for more information if you want. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 22:59, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
It's hard to not be cynical when virtually nothing I do in an effort to help with the wiki is either ignored-if it's merely a proposal-or reverted within five seconds, and virtually always by YOU. To me Wikia has always been a means for me to add to databases about things that I love, but here it's like pulling teeth to contribute anything without being shut down. Even when I suggest ways in which I could contribute something helpful-and which brings various articles into harmony with other articles, I might add-I'm either ignored or told that the idea is impractical or pointless. As such, you can understand why I'm not eager to see those conversations again every time I go to my talk page-not that I like going to it that much anyway since anytime I get a new message it seems to be more of the same.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 23:08, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry if you feel your contributions on the Wiki have gone unappreciated. If my actions toward you come off as biased or overbearing, it's only because I'm the most active administrator on the Wiki at the moment, and it was never my intention to seem like a bully.
It should also be noted that this Wiki has more guidelines and policies in place than the average Wiki -- guidelines and policies that were put into effect very early in the Wiki's inception and for issues where other Wikis might typically be more lax. If it seems like I'm holding you to these policies too stringently, that was also not my intention.
You can find most of the Wiki's basic guidelines here, and feel free to ask if you have questions concerning other Wiki matters. Thank you. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 23:33, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Well, I think you've hit the matter right on the head-the differences between this wiki and others I've frequented struck me shortly after my last reply to you. Not only is this Wiki more structured, I would say, but it also seems to have a much more active group of users than most. That might be why we've had so many encounters like this-usually I find myself as one who either had to do all the work on a particular article or set of articles or being the one to clean up poorly written ones. It's also been a case where there's either no admin monitoring going on or it's all directed to other areas, so either my work goes entirely unnoticed or I get the occasional thanks for contributing. It's an unenviable position you have, and I don't doubt that other Wikia users have acted in such a way as to bring the Wiki's current policies about. It's a shame, and I'm sorry that such has come about and if I've made you feel heavy-handed. I'm sure you're only trying to do what's best for the site, and it's not right for me to single you out when my own habits are more to blame. This Wiki may just be one it's better for me not to worry about editing, for the sake of my own temper if nothing else. I appreciate your patience, and I'm sorry again if I've added to your headache of running the Wiki.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 00:30, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Speculation pages

This is why I discourage the creation of so many speculation pages: it's easy to lose track of the ones you've already created, resulting in page duplicates. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 21:56, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah well, I didn't know how to fix the title on the other one, and nobody cared about the first one anyway, so it didn't seem like an issue; I appreciate you fixing that. --Kilmarnock228 (talk) 08:18, September 27, 2017 (UTC)
Why do I get the impression you're creating all these speculation pages out of obligation than out of any genuine desire to promote speculation? furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 13:07, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
Is there something wrong with doing both? It's true there are some episodes that have prompted more thought in my mind than others, but I think all are worth discussion. Of course, I did question recently whether anybody thought the speculation forum should be cleared out.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 21:23, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
And no one has yet to reply to that forum discussion, so it begs the question of what exactly requires "cleaning up". furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 21:44, March 20, 2018 (UTC)
I thought it was a pretty straightforward proposal: if it's a speculation page that hasn't been edited within a reasonably recent time-admittedly I didn't really get specific with that-then maybe it should be deleted. Of course, the forums in general appear to be all but dead apart from the statistics and animation speculation forums, which is probably the biggest reason nobody has replied so far as I can imagine. Given your own history of favoring the comments sections of pages I'm actually kind of surprised you didn't comment in favor. --Kilmarnock228 (talk) 21:48, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

Punctuation

Kilmarnock, please preview your edits and use proper punctuation. A great deal of your edits have been missing key comma placement. Thank you. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 21:30, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Appreciate the tip, and that you've corrected said punctuation as opposed to just reverting the edits.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 21:32, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
You're still not punctuating properly, Kilmarnock, and your consecutive edits are leaving a lot of formatting inconsistencies for other users to clean up after.
Please make more liberal use of commas, and you don't need to italicize Gameloft text. Thank you. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 13:31, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
My apologies.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 20:02, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
Sorry about those duplicates as well; since the list pages have icons indicating hidden text, I was under the impression that standard articles would have the same.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 21:34, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Emily30

Your welcome. I'm always happy to help when I can. Emily30 00:17, July 8, 2018 (ET)

In universe vs. Reality

I don't know the difference between "In-universe" and "Reality".BG1987 (talk) 01:54, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

List of non-pony characters

Re: Talk:List of non-pony characters/Hippogriffs/@comment-29981995-20180801232815 & Talk:List of non-pony characters/Seaponies and mermares/@comment-29981995-20180801234302: They're basically variations of characters and/or lookalikes like various other royal guards; Stratus Skyranger—using a The Art of My Little Pony: The Movie page 120 "Art by Angela An" appearance—is both himself (Noble Hippogriff Guard) and Charming Hippogriff, while Seapony Guard is both Graceful Hippogriff and Stalwart Hippogriff Guard. (7)6(four) (talk) 07:03, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, okay; that's weird, but clarifying. I appreciate the info.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 07:37, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

Storm Creatures

Re: Forum:Speculation/What Lies Beneath (replying here since my reply most likely is unrelated to What Lies Beneath): The Official Movie Sourcebook page 70 mentions regarding a Black Skull Island camp of 14 defector Storm Minions, "A few weeks ago a group of the Storm King’s Minions came to the island. They had left the Storm King’s Realm and decided to form their own court. They no longer wanted to be a party of the Storm King’s army. They were flying east on an airship, but after being attacked by a Sky Serpent in the Sea of Clouds the ship crash landed on the beach of Black Skull Island." (7)6(four) (talk) 05:41, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

Hm, interesting. Question is, are the background details of the RPG considered canon? Obviously specifics to each session wouldn't be.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 07:04, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

Mobile game characters

Some more here. (7)6(four) (talk) 14:33, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Much obliged, good sir. Dang, they really piled it on with this update! I believe that's the same YouTuber who clued me in to the fact that there are a couple of Umbrum characters playable; haven't found them anywhere else though for some reason.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 22:15, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Cosmos

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(7)6(four) (talk) 00:51, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks man.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 03:03, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

What I Like About You

You hold me tight! Tell me I'm the only one, wanna come over tonight, yeah! Keep on whisperin' in my ear! Tell me about the things that I wanna hear, cause it's true!

Alright, seriously now - you really keep an open mind! You're open for anything the show has to offer, and open to any ideas! You like thinking outside the box, like me! There is no "unlikely" on this show! Many of the fandom are pretty close-minded - only care about fandom related things like Derpy, or think the show wouldn't change their ways in certain respects. We've all seen the unlikely happen, like the Apple parents or a BG pony episode! Anything can happen, and you agree on that! Not many of the fandom has that aspect, congrats to you on keeping an adventured head and making up cool theories not many think were possible! You're cool to talk to about this stuff, dude! Please, never change! ;) --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 05:01, January 8, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks man; it's fun talking to you about this kinda stuff too. I hope I try to keep an open mind, though I think I do have a realistic streak. I'm usually pretty quick to say when I think something isn't going to happen, though usually it has more of a basis in the real world than anything within the universe. Still, I try to be open, and am always up for a discussion.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 09:46, January 8, 2019 (UTC)

wikipedia:Word salad#In computing

How'd this happen? (I at least found some of it amusing enough to outweigh the grossness of "bile game".) (7)6(four) (talk) 23:15, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

I wish I knew. Don’t know what’s up on this wiki.

List of ponies/Earth ponies/Mares

https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_ponies/Earth_ponies/Mares?diff=prev&oldid=2056930

What were you trying to do here, exactly? furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 23:47, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

I have no idea how that happened; I was trying to add info from the latest mobile game event, not remove anything.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 04:15, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

An overused but important question

Hey, Kil! I know I keep asking these questions alot, and like me, you're speculator, and I wanna just ask you personally one thing, the most important question I have for FIM!

Do you think there is something coming for Spike? Nothing specific, just something, something big though! Like do you feel like his character is really missing something? And I'm not talking about his origins or his crush on Rarity... it's his destiny, what makes him a main character, and yet they're still called the "Mane Six", not Mane Seven.

When I keep looking up and I see that one phrase in Spike's character description: "he's unsure of his destiny", it keeps my spirits high, thinking that, with all the crap Spike keeps going through in the past with getting little in return, to finally get rewarded and get respect he deserves, and no more will he be forgotten about or misunderestimated by both the fandom and the in-show characters.

I wanna see your opinion on this. Like do you feel like his arc is unfinished, like something doesn't quite add up about it? It's been what I've been trying to figure out for a looooong time, brah. --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 22:31, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

I feel you man. I hope that something big is in store for Spike, that he plays some kind of big role before all is said and done. I hope he can find a destiny beyond serving as Twilight's assistant, and perhaps even play a role-or even THE role-in defeating Grogar. I wouldn't mind at all if his destiny turns out to be something unconnected to the Mane 6 and the Elements of Harmony, hence why he wouldn't be included in their number. After all, he's a dragon, and they're ponies; they're friends, but they do have differences, and that's a good thing.
I do feel like at some point Spike will have to step out and find his own place in the world of Friendship is Magic. My biggest worry is that, even with the show ending, the writers seem to cling to the status quo for many characters. Father Knows Beast was a massive disappointment, and Sweet and Smoky didn't really do anything but resolve Spike's longstanding feud with Garble. I'm hoping that if Spike does get some more focus before the show ends, it won't be like The Last Crusade, which was an episode that-in my mind-essentially amounted to nothing.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 21:31, May 22, 2019 (UTC)
I'd say Sweet and Smoky kinda resolved it. And even if it's not resolved, I got the feeling it might in the future! Would it take Spike and Smolder dating for it to finally happen? Now that we're pretty sure Smolder's not his long-lost sister, there's still the next best thing! Or not... hey, anything to get rid of the Rarity crush is fine by me. But Spike's been spending alota time with Fluttershy lately! .... Nah, forget that last thing. XD I agree with your opinion on Father Knows Beast though. The problem wasn't him not being Spike's dad - the problem is more like, he used him, and got away with it. That's just cruel. There coulda been a better way to do it.
I wouldn't say him being a dragon is really the issue here, but more like, how does he connect with the Mane 6, especially when they leave him outta stuff? You're right about him finding his place... something that the show is very late in talking about. We're nearing the end, and there's only 13 more episodes that could talk about it, but it's not too late! Only in the end is it too late.
You read my mind about the Grogar thing! I think I already mentioned that though. After all, Grogar's after the Mane 6, Chrysalis is after Starlight, Cozy might be after the Student 6, and with King Sombra gone, who's gonna warn Grogar about Spike? For all the four villains are concerned - he's just Humdrum! I wouldn't be surprised if the finale turned out to be Power Ponies again, but in a more epic fashion, and I wouldn't complain about that! Still though, we can't forget about the Student 6 and the Treehouse of Harmony most likely having a role in the finale as well, plus, the villains teaming up to deceive Grogar, so even if Spike is the answer, he's not the only one that's gonna contribute to Grogar's defeat! It's almost a sure thing that the Villain 3 are gonna reform, but how they're gonna reform and who's gonna do it remains to be seen! I'm pretty much just repeating what I said in the speculation post I made for the series finale at this rate! :P --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 22:31, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

Comic issue 79 cover B

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Do you have a source for this comic cover? furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 00:42, July 2, 2019 (UTC)

Yes: right here.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 04:38, July 2, 2019 (UTC)

Edit Summaries

Hey, it's not a requirement but if you're making a lot of edits within a short period, it might be a good idea to start leaving edit summaries so the administration can understand what you're doing. Again, not compulsory - just a tip.

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If I May Ask

Have you ever heard of Greg Baldwin?A Spy in Concealment (talk) 19:58, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

Can't say that I have, no.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 20:09, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

He’s a voice actor who regularly resides in California, best known for being the fill-in of the late Mako Iwamatsu. The latter did the voices of Aku in Seasons 1-4 of Samurai Jack and General Iroh in Seasons 1-2 of Avatar: The Last Airbender, with the former filling in for him after his death.

But, anyway, he was the regular voice actor that I visioned for the role of King Sombra the most. I’ve been interested in seeing Baldwin become well-known for doing something outside of filling in for Mako for some time, and he’s proved that he can do more than that. A notable case being his role as Crazy Fish in an episode of Spongebob Squarepants.

What do you think?A Spy in Concealment (talk) 21:40, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

I thought the name sounded familiar. Honestly wouldn’t have thought of him as a new voice for Sombra, but it’s an interesting proposal.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 21:52, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks.A Spy in Concealment (talk) 22:12, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

Theory: Origins of the Tree of Harmony

Dear Kilmarnock228,

I was just wondering. In the wikia page for[1] you mentioned that your original theory to resolve the discrepancies regarding the Tree of Harmony's origin (involving Starswirl and time-travel) is no longer valid after Starswirl's comments in the Season 9 episode "The Beginning of The End".

I'm sorry but I just don't see HOW (or WHICH of) Starswirl's comments contradict your original theory? (By the way, your theory of what actually happened is EXTREMELY LIKELY.) As far as I recall, Starswirl said, (In response to Twilight breaking the news to him that the Tree has been destroyed:) "I know, I felt it. Like a part of my essence just...ceased to be." (In response to Twilight enquiring about the Everfree Forest): "I have more than enough magic in me to keep the Everfree Forest from invading." (Twilight: "You can do that?") "The Pillars and I planted the Tree of Harmony. Who do you think kept the Forest under control before 'IT' did?"

I don't see anything in his comments that refutes your original theory. Could you please explain? Thank you for your time!

--Dreamstar Moonlight (talk) 11:59, September 19, 2019 (UTC) Dreamstar Moonlight

Well, thank YOU for taking an interest in my little theory, Dreamstar. It’s Star Swirl’s commenting that he helped keep the Everfree Forest in check before the Tree of Harmony did that would seem to contradict my theory. The Journal of the Two Sisters indicates that the Tree was already ancient by the time Celestia and Luna became princesses, as there were legends about it that Celestia knew of. This inspired my proposal that he went back in time to plant it. However, this can’t really be the case if Star Swirl battled the forest during his lifetime.
There are only a few ways I could potentially see my theory still working. One, Star Swirl was around even longer than we think he was before the Pony of Shadows incident. He fought the forest until his future self planted the Tree of Harmony. Eventually he discovered it and, kind of like with the Cutie Map, realized that it contained his magic. Later, after meeting the other Pillars, he realized they all needed to take part in creating it.
Alternatively, it could be that Star Swirl planting the Tree fulfilled some kind of Alicorn prophecy. If this is so, the Tree may actually have been fairly new when he showed it to the princesses, even if he traveled back in time to plant it. Of course, the simplest, of most depressing, way to reconcile my theory with the season nine premiere is if Star Swirl was lying to the Mane 6 so they’d leave to stop Sombra. Celestia and Luna might even have been aware but backed him up based on some foreknowledge of the future he shared with them. Of course, that idea makes them all seem fairly deceptive, unless Star Swirl has lied to the princesses as well.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 19:36, September 19, 2019 (UTC)


Personally, I prefer your theory that Starswirl must have been around for longer than we know. And by the way, I ALWAYS LOVE YOUR THEORIES. They're so insightful. 

Especially your theory that Starlight's (and Twilight's) time travel created a parallel timeline where:

1. The Sirens who were originally defeated by Starswirl alone (in the oiginal timtline) were now defeated by the 7 Pillars (in the modified parallel timeline)

2. The genders of some of the Founders of Equestria were changed in the parallel timeline.

3. Perhaps, because of the parallel timeline created as a Result of Starlight's multiple time travels during "The Cutie Re-Mark", the events of "Siege of the Crystal Empire" never happened. Thus, Sombra never reformed. And this is the reason why Sombra, (who was reformed in in the oiginal timtline) when resurrected during Season 9 premiere, was still his former evil self. Also why Rarity remarked "But I thought the Crysal Heart had dispelled him into the ether!" (recalling the events of "The Crystal Empire Part 2", becuase "Siege had never occured in this new timeline).

After all, Zecora also remarked in one of the many timelines created by Starlight (The Chrysalis Timeline); "Ah. Time is a river, where even the tiniest changes seen can lead to a cascade of effects downstream" ( in response to Twilight saying, "But this is the second time I've come back and this world is even worse than the last one! If Starlight keeps doing the same thing in the past, how could the present be so different?")

Also, do you think it's possible that the origins of The Tree of Harmony became somewhat "murkier", as a result of all this time-travel?

Do share your ideas - they're usually so well thought-out and deep, I simply ADORE them! (And the fact that I'm a hige DC Comics nerd where Time-Travel by The Flash had similar consequences. "Flashpoint", as the event was called rebooted the entire DC timeline so that certain events never happened, and the DC Universe lost 10 years of it's history, thus effectively re-writing history and switching genders of certain characters, much like what you proposed in your theory!

Dreamstar Moonlight (talk) 03:25, September 20, 2019 (UTC)Dreamstar Moonlight

Thanks Dreamstar; that means a lot. Yeah, time travel makes for some interesting plot lines. I used to be into the revived Doctor Who series, and one of the former show runners went on record as blaming any inconsistencies between the new and classic series on a “Time War” that took place in between the two.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 00:22, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Editing and previewing

Kilmarnock228, I highly recommend previewing your edits with the "Preview" and "Show changes" buttons before you publish them. A number of your most recent edits have been breaking page formatting, like adding line breaks before {{clr}} templates and removing line breaks between quotes. Thank you. furdklZ.png 2xoHxMt.gif 23:08, November 29, 2019 (UTC)

My apologies; don't know why that happened.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 23:50, November 29, 2019 (UTC)

Well, Starlight still lives in it so it still used as her home despite becoming a tourist place. Right? DavidBrennan99 (talk) 18:07, January 23, 2020 (UTC)David B

Yes. Sorry if I do something wrong. DavidBrennan99 (talk) 20:53, January 23, 2020 (UTC)David B

In response to your comment here:

https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Sky_Stinger#comm-1030232

What about the Hooffield and McColt families article? They are not known to be related but share a merged article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bl00lust (talkcontribs)

That is a fair point. ImperfectXIII or another admin would probably be the best person to ask.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 20:24, March 19, 2020 (UTC)
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