firat (っ◕‿◕)っ ♥ Talk Contribsfluttershy___the_mane_dress_project_by_kibbiethegreat-d5qoa4w.png 23:30, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Is that like a Chinese knock-off of a Fiat or something?-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png  01:23, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
I dunno. I just got it from WoodenToaster, and thought that "firat" was something like "first" or something. :/ Anyway, I meant "first." (っ◕‿◕)っ ♥ Talk Contribsfluttershy___the_mane_dress_project_by_kibbiethegreat-d5qoa4w.png 01:55, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
lol I figured that was the case.-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png  02:00, June 19, 2013 (UTC)


How do you get the YoutubePlayer and MPC templates to work? Please help me?--Daipenmon (talk) 14:50, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

For example this code would use a YoutubePlayer with this song.

{{YoutubePlayer|Hide = 0|Top = 1|Autoplay = 1|PlaylistURL = embed/bdzT7wstLGg}}

If you look at the youtube URL, the 11 character gibberish URL after v= is what needs to be put after the PlaylistURL parameter in the template. Copy that and put it in that template. It does not have to be in a playlist to work. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   20:03, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Actually it MPC template l don't know about.Daipenmon (talk) 20:39, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, well I have not used the MPC template before, so I have no idea sorry *shrug* B0lGGoQ.gifOz   20:40, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

I gave up, trying to get the YoutubePlayer template and the MPC template to work without a hitch is way behind me.Daipenmon (talk) 20:59, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Tell you what: link me a song you want to play on your userpage and I'll see what I can do. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   21:14, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

You'll have to go to Bronies wiki but this is the song l want: on my user page there.Daipenmon (talk) 21:26, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Put this on your userpage there: (assuming you correctly imported the template)

{{YoutubePlayer|Hide = 0|Top = 1|Autoplay = 1|PlaylistURL = embed/rE-U5e78WHc}}

Just tested it; works fine for me. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   21:32, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

I copied and pasted the template from here over to Bronies wiki.Daipenmon (talk) 21:34, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Animated sigs

I tend to have a rather difficult time viewing the forums and talk pages here due to animated sigs (at least that's the only thing I can think of that would cause major lag on the page). Obviously a "Don't have animation in your sig" rule wouldn't be fair to users, and I don't really use the forums here, but I'm simply curious if this issue has ever arisen with other users. Lazy sig (talk to Grif) 15:34, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah there was; you can enable a gadget in your preferences which takes away all the fancy editing on signatures. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   16:41, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Kicking the bot

Look at this from my situation. I am treating everyone as a "user". I have 4 users that are using 1 user to cause a disruption. That one user is a problem in this case, but the other four are not innocent either. Now, I have supposedly a 4:1 ratio of the chat telling me that the other 4 users are the problem, and the 1 user is okay. I can look back in my chat history just by scrolling up and see the single user has had this same incident before, not less than 2 hours previous. It is therefore in my opinion that the single user is wrong. The single user here is in fact, a bot, and not a person. The bot does absolutely nothing productive for the chat, and just enables users to spam. This chatroom isn't a playground for you to test anything about your bot. It has no reason to be here and is causing a disruption- therefore I kicked it after asking you to turn it off. You did not comply. Therefore I removed the issue. You took offense to that, and that's fine- however, Ozuzanna, Cod4, the two of you as well as H4M turned the chat room into a mess of chaos even after I asked you to forward the conversation to my talk page or the forum multiple times. That type of behaviour is totally unacceptable of a VSTF or an admin, and I do not appreciate it. As far as I can tell, this is nothing but organized trolling. - This message is being forwarded to Ozuzanna and Callofduty4's talk pages to ensure that they see the message- Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 18:44, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
Organized trolling? Chaotic mess? Um sorry but that is one of the ridiculous things I've ever heard here - do you really think we're out to get you and put the chat into disharmony? Oh and for the record I made a forum regarding it, so you can't say I didn't forward it elsewhere. Also please give me the part where I kept going and put the chat into chaos because I'm really keen on seeing that as I do not recall such a thing. Being a one man band and thinking that your opinion is the most judicial against a few others isn't an excuse to be dictator-like. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   18:54, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

About the namespace forum

I am currently looking through the file names forum to see if there is anything I can help with. I have found a few images that need "S" and "E" to mark the season and episode number. Is there a way that I can do this as a regular user?


20:03, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

No, to change the name of an image you need to have Image Control rights. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   10:17, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
I cannot seem to find the file namespace forum. I am interested in becoming an IC team member but it says I need to have a lot of edits in that forum. I guess it is a bit late to this since I am leaving for the summer TOMORROW but I thought it is better than never. Could you please link me to that forum?

17:24, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Here's the forum. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   17:27, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

No I mean the file namespace forum. It says I require at least 100 of my edits there. rainbow_dash_sword___tpp_by_creshosk-d42e6e3.gif Gummygugugaga talk 
The nominee should have at least 400 edits on the wiki, of which at least 100 edits in the file namespace of categorizing uploaded files. It says that on that forum. If this isn't it, then I don't know what you're talking about, sorry. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   17:40, June 29, 2013 (UTC)


Hi, I'm kind of new to putting up categories so please explain why you keep on taking the ones I put up, down. Some of them make sense, like giving Twilight and Spike the Equestria Girls Characters category, I just don't understand. Please help so that I know not to make this a common mistake.


How did you get such a cool moving picture of Fluttershy on your talk page?

TeamRocketDiva (talk) 10:12, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

I removed them because they aren't directly Equestria Girls characters. While yes they appear there, but not introduced from Equestria Girls such as Sunset Shimmer where she at the moment originates from there. Spike and Twilight appeared prior to this in the actual show. Hope this helps. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   10:26, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
Per Help:Categorization, only categories which contain an intrinsic or defining attribute should be used on a page; while it is a defining attribute for Sunset Shimmer, since she only appears in the movie, it is not for, say, Twilight Sparkle, since the majority of her appearances do not occur within the film.-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png  01:19, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
Plus, if you look at the category itself, it clearly (I think) explains what the category is for. Guess no one reads those. ~Bobogoobo (talk) Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 02:09, June 29, 2013 (UTC)


Hello Ozuzanna, would you please give me the link or procedure to report a spammer/vandal, if you please ? Thanks –  Drakep6yPvD4.png  16:14, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Request That Needs To Be Granted

Heya Ozuzanna! It's me Mac (Macguire4852). A user named Marcus949 wants you to spread the word on the Club Penguin Wiki that his wiki will accept annons. In case you do not know what annons are, annons are users who cannot create an account. He also wants you to bring everyone from there to here. Quite a hard task, but just do it for Marcus. If they refuse a bit, tell them they will see me on this chat. He cannot do it because he is blocked, if I'm not mistaken. Please leave a message on Marcus' talk page. Please forgive me for the inconvenience. Mac (talk) 05:43, June 29, 2013 (UTC)Mac

Um no sorry I'm not an advertising agency. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   06:14, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Behaviour in chat

I'm leaving this message to ask you to refrain from the behaviour you showcased in the chat in the morning of 29th of June. Stuff like this This, Link and Link is unacceptable for any user.

You as an admin should know the chat rules and show empathy and understanding if you are told upon about such incidents. You are looked upon as an admin and thus I wish you will take the chat as seriously as you take your job maintaining our great database.

Your example means a lot to many people including me, I hope this won't be an issue from now on.

Yours truly:  Federal_Republic_of_Ocredan.pngOcredan Ocredanian_Flag1.png 08:14, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Some mods like User:AppleJon allow songs with cussing in chat, if he was here I'd prove it to you but sadly he's not so I have nothing to prove my case. I admit I got steamed and I'll take a break from chat. If my behavior was so bad and you want to create a forum to desysop me, go for it. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   08:18, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
He didn't say anything about desysop. Also, Just because one user allows things, doesn't make it okay- All that means is that AppleJon and you are both wrong, because it's in direct violation of rules that you've both agreed to uphold. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 08:21, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

I never said I want to take you down as an admin. I only want you to behave responsibly which I know you are very capable of. I'm sure this won't become an issue.  Federal_Republic_of_Ocredan.pngOcredan Ocredanian_Flag1.png 08:21, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Well I'm not going to make this a huge issue. I'll forfeit my rights right now as if I saw another admin do it I wouldn't like it. Perhaps in the future I can earn them back. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   08:23, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I was looking in the chat rules and came across this:

  • Material that contains swearing. Links to songs that contain swearing should be accompanied by a notice saying so

My point: It's not bad that Ozuzanna linked a song with swearing in it. It's just that he didn't provide a warning which can easily happen. Common mistake amongst people is forgetting. I'm not too sure if this warrented the attention that it has. Perhaps a simple PM would be good enough. Ozuzanna, it's a common mistake man, don't feel the need to remove your administration rights. Your provide good moderation for chat and do wonders for the Wiki itself using these tools. User:ShadowLurker343/Sig 19:13, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Nah it's fine; this isn't the only flaw I have in my behavior, I think. And I'm sure someone else can replace me easily at some point. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   19:18, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Dude, you just forgot... These things happen all the time. I really don't think you should give up your administration rights like that. You made a mistake that any user could make. Bcrat, Admin, chat moderators, anyone can forget. Dont run away, dude. User:ShadowLurker343/Sig 19:42, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

I'll still be editing the wiki as usual, just not in admin status. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   20:42, June 29, 2013 (UTC)


?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zuzanna klaczka (talkcontribs)

I replied on your talk. -- Ozuzanna (Talk) 12:14, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

new background pony

Hi Ozuzanna i found a new background pony!!! Can you help me to write a page for the background pony??? User:The awesome pony


I believe that is "Neon Lights". ~Bobogoobo (talk) Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 08:53, July 2, 2013 (UTC)
Indeed he is.-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png  08:55, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

Chat Forums

Hello there, just thought I would mention that some of the chat forums are very over-due for closure.


User:ShadowLurker343/Sig 21:06, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

Possible sock puppet is possibly a duplicate account of Can anyone check the IPs? Teyandee (Talk) 08:53, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

I can't perform CheckUser, but it looks quite obvious that it is indeed a sockpuppet. -- Ozuzanna (Talk) 09:05, July 6, 2013 (UTC)


Can you add your DPL (User:Ozuzanna/1) to My Little Pony Friendship is Magic Wiki:DPL so we will have a single page for various DPL lists? Teyandee (Talk) 22:05, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Ah yes that discussion, I forgot. Don't worry, I deleted my that page so the DPLs shouldn't pose an issue anymore. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   22:09, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, can you please restore that page and add the "Containing both Fanmade images and Non-MLP images categories." filter to the DPL page? We can use it. Teyandee (Talk) 22:18, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
Done. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   22:24, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Teyandee (Talk) 00:18, July 7, 2013 (UTC)


Hey oozy I like you new picture it's a very cute trixie :p

_free_icon_emote__nutella_pusheen__omg__by_mochatchi-d7pzb06.gifnutella :3  

Main page

Hello, I tried a little something there: User:0drake0/Sandbox. rightcolumn doesn't work correctly there, and I didn't force it to move. hide it and you'll see the centre only. Pictures would certainly use a little care from one of our wiki magicians.

I think it is much more clear and straitforward this way, and I also updated a few things. Your opinion ? Thanks –  Drakep6yPvD4.png  19:37, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Looks decent, but I don't really ever tinker with the main page or take notice of it, so my opinion isn't really that good, sorry! B0lGGoQ.gifOz   07:01, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks anyway, who should I bother for this ? Thanks –  Drakep6yPvD4.png  17:38, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
Bobo is probably the best guy to talk to about this. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   18:09, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks –  Drakep6yPvD4.png  22:02, July 10, 2013 (UTC)


Are the "general commands" section of Flutterbot are thouse the commands that users can do?

Yes. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   13:00, July 18, 2013 (UTC)


If you can, please go on.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  14:27, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

New song in mlp

Hey Ozzy. I was just wondering is there enough information to create a page for the new song "We're Apples to the Core" which was presented in an animatic form at the Comic Con

FAHqYUz.png Spitfire Talk  xzAIGzM.png

We have My_Little_Pony_Friendship_is_Magic_Wiki:Workshop/Apples_Forever. Teyandee (Talk) 13:47, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

COPPA violation

I am afraid that a good friend of mine, Siastoev, has been found to be a COPPA violator. In addition, she altered her profile after I told her it was against COPPA, as seen here in her main page history. Although I regret that she will be banned, I am afraid I put duty before emotions.  The Candlekeeper talk   NLhIbvF.png   05:42, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

I sorted it out. Thanks. -- Ozuzanna (Talk) 09:13, July 24, 2013 (UTC)


Just for future reference, if an OC page is created in this wiki's main namespace, please don't direct people to create them in the main namespace of the Fan Wiki; that wiki actually only allows "notable" OCs/fanmade charcters (that meet a popularity criterion, of having appeared in multiple works besides those by the original creator; a couple examples would be Nyx and Lauren Faust; and if you're wondering why Faust's OC is counted as a fanmade character, it's because, for the purposes of that wiki, all non-show characters are considered "fanmade"). A good alternative is the Bronies wiki; they accept all OCs, AFAIK. (Though any sort of other fan labor is welcome to get its own article on the Fan Wiki, provided there's an external link to the work).-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count 02:07, July 25, 2013 (UTC)Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png 

Ah ok thanks for letting me know. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   07:50, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
Npb; OC pages can be a problem on the Fan Wiki, so I figured I'd be safe, rather than sorry.-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count 21:50, July 25, 2013 (UTC)Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png 

Please help!

How do you delete or rename images? I'd like to delete an uploaded image and replace it with a detailed file of the same image for the MLP wiki.

Klavice Gavin (talk) 23:05, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Just place {{file rename}} on the file you wish to rename (with the name you wish to rename it to), and then someone with the appropriate powers will do so, if the name you suggest is an improvement over its current name, as defined by FW:DN.-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count 02:42, July 26, 2013 (UTC)Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png 

My profile...

I was editing it and when I clicked publish it said that my profile had excessive caps and refused to save. I quit the tab and returned to the wiki. After this, my blog turned to how it was origionaly. Why did this happen?

xxxFrankiexxx (talk) 15:03, July 28, 2013 (UTC)xxxFrankiexxx

Excessive caps is one of the abuse filters we have in place to filter what people put on pages. And I'm sorry I didn't get what you meant by blog. -- Ozuzanna (Talk) 15:06, July 28, 2013 (UTC)


Do you know his new account? Since he's a former administrator and has a bunch of contributions, plus his old user page redirects to User:Zeiluse, I'd rather keep that user page around for now. If we know his new account, we can just redirect it there instead. ~Bobogoobo (talk) Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 22:24, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

This may sound a bit odd but judging from the circumstance Zeiluse quit the wiki over, I would not be inclined to say he is coming back (though I am fuzzy on the event(s) that led up to it - I wasn't really around for much of it). Also, I don't think any of us remember his new account's username :P  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  22:31, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I didn't remember that he quit. I'd still keep his user and user talk pages around, since they have so many revisions and links to them and his user page isn't too bad. ~Bobogoobo (talk) Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 22:34, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough, although his swan song wasn't polite (CoD4 knows what I mean :P). B0lGGoQ.gifOz   22:36, July 29, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ozuzanna i just wanted to ask, could you delete those old blogs of mine for me? :)


All of them?-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count 02:05, July 30, 2013 (UTC)Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png 
Alright, deleted them all. If you want any of them restored, just contact me or another administrator.-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count 06:09, July 30, 2013 (UTC)Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png 

Banana Republic

I don't know the circumstances, but since when do we block users indefinitely for sockpuppeting? Just curious. Thanks!  Food 25px-Surprise.png  04:49, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

From what I've seen (for a good few month now) in chat when users sock over chat bans which are very long (such as a month as Banana Republic had) we usually indefinitely block that account along with any socks. It's only indefinite when the ban is already long, I think. Plus, I knew her really well and in a way I guess this is what she wanted (if you know what went off recently). B0lGGoQ.gifOz   07:31, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

hi there, Thanks for re-naming my pictures. You see, I'm not that awesome at renaming photos with detail, but anways thanks again! X0 rainbow dash x (talk) 17:20, August 1, 2013 (UTC)


Please tell me that template makes the following pages unnecessary (not that the last one was probably ever anything other than stupid and broken): 1 2 3 4. Also, your talk page lags my browser for over a minute when I try to load it, not sure why. Your talk page should be accessible, so you might want to fix that. ~Bobogoobo (talk) Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 23:36, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

I've sorted out the template, I think. Oh and if you click my nav link for my talk page, it has ?action=purge on the end so it will cause excess lag. However if this isn't why it's inaccessible for you, i'll cut the code tomorrow. B0lGGoQ.gifOz  00:14, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
No, I only clicked the link in the navigation bar (User - User talk - Contribs - etc.). It feels like it's loading something huge, like a video or audio file. If you don't have anything like that, maybe it's just the images or something, or just my computer being dumb. Don't worry about it if that's the case. ~Bobogoobo (talk) Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 01:28, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
Well that's strange, it loads perfectly fine for me in a couple seconds - even if I purge it's only a couple seconds extra. B0lGGoQ.gifOz  11:53, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Bronies wikia

Hey Ozuzanna i was just wondering if you and the other admins would be interested to add "a link" to the wikia for the MLP:FIM fandom into this wikia, in "community"? :)

I am just asking.


Hmm, I don't know at this point. I'll look into it along with other admins. Thanks! B0lGGoQ.gifOz   21:23, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
Update: I made a forum here to discuss this. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   13:48, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good, if there is anything you guys wanna know about it, the feel free to ask. :D

Tell me when you guys have decided, it is meant to be a wikia for everything about the MLP:FIM fandom, as well as being a nice place for Bronies to talk on. :)

---User:Bleck11 19:57, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Just a question? :)

Hey Ozuzanna you seem to know a lot about MLP:FIM, so if i can just ask if you know this.

Is the land of Froud Valley a part of the Equestria kingdom or is it a separated/another land/country?


I don't know for sure but, since it's not on the Equestria map I'll use that as evidence as it's not on the map that Froud Valley is something else. B0lGGoQ.gifOz  20:04, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

I see, thank you so much for answering. :D


Problems That Have Come to My Attention

Hey there, Ozuzanna.

I have noticed that as of the past couple of months, you have been very quite rude to me and it's upsetting me quite a lot. Up to now, I have accepted it and tried to forget about it, but it's coming to the point where it affects your duty of care which I find quite concerning. For the past month now, you have left the chat, usually when I speak with you, like greeting you. You come into the chat and then leave as soon as I try to make contact.

The issue that concerns me the most is the situation today, where I made my intentions clear to you about the high importance of the personal message. Since you ignored me and then left the chat when I asked you to talk to me the second time, I will display it here. Users, have been coming to others members of the community expressing that they find you intimidating and scary sometimes. As an Administrator, people should feel comfortable enough to speak with you about a verity of issues. I for one do not feel comfortable speaking with you about anything due to the serious disrespect you have shown me the past couple of months.

I hope that here, we can draw a line and perhaps move on from this. I made mistakes in the past, I am working with people to try and change that, I am sorry for the annoyance I caused to you. But avoiding me and refusing to speak with me about important issues, I don't think is a good approach to things.

I hope that we can move on from this and make a good working relationship.

Kind regards,

ShadowLurker343 (talk) 17:52, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not obliged to talk to you if I don't want to. I don't like being invited to Skype groups by your friends when I do not wish to be in such. Also I'd prefer that we co-exist peacefully, please stop stalking me around as I'm not the only admin on the wiki here. I have noticed you are persistent to chase me about when other users can do as much as I can, and I'm getting tired of it. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   17:55, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
This user actually was leaving this message after speaking to me. He's told me that there are issues regarding the way you have been treating him. Part of Co-existing peacefully is not totally ignoring or shunning the other person. 343 had already spoken to me about how he felt you were treating him, and I encouraged him to talk to you. I'm afraid the idea that "other users can do as much as (you) can" simply is not correct in this regard. Other users are not responsible for your behaviour, and that is what 343 wished to discuss. Your reply is essentially the type of behaviour that he's told me he encounters and feels should not be maintained. Just because you don't like someone on this wiki doesn't mean that you can ignore them or be disrespectful. If it was unintentional then I would understand, but clearly you have been intentionally acting this way towards 343. That's not acceptable behaviour of any user. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 18:04, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
Per Nitz, along side this, I wanted to speak with you in PM today about how other members of the community have said to others that they find you intimidating and sometimes scary. I wanted to speak with you directly so it could be a quiet word and there would be no need for all this, but you left me no option and so I had to express it via a talkpage which was a last resort. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 18:20, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
I shouldn't be forced to talk to any user. No one should. Now let's look at my neutral admin wiki monitoring point of view - I don't see any urgent wiki-based reason to talk to him (I'm always watching recent changes etc). Oh and if it's urgent, he could leave a message here. If you look in the history of my talk page there's a good chance I'll respond. Like I said before, and I will say it again, I'm not the only admin here. My extra tools on the wiki are tied with any other admin we have, I don't see why I should be pinned down when we have other admins. And I'm not a fan of forced friendships. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   18:21, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
You aren't listening, the main problem here is that other members of the community find you intimidating and scary sometimes. I wanted to speak with you so that no further action would have to be taken. Would you of preferred me to speak to another Administrator about it? I believe in talking to the person who the issue is about, not going behind their back and doing it that way. I confronted you due to an issue with your behaviour, your response left me no alternative but to leave a talkpage message. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 18:24, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
You're lampshading the issue here Ozuzanna. This has to do with your chatroom behaviour and how you're treating one user. I'm not forcing you to be friends with him, I don't really care if you guys are friends or terrible enemies. What I am expecting, of BOTH of you, is to treat each other like human beings and not be overtly rude to each other. This isn't the first time 343 has reported it to me, and it's extremely childish. Neither of you are acting like adults about this and frankly I'm sick of hearing about it. -> Ozuzanna, if you're not going to be on the chat to talk to everyone and treat them the same, please don't be there. Singling out one user to ignore and shun is not okay, it's bullying. I really don't want to see this from anyone again, this issue should be put to rest. Either treat everyone with respect, or don't be around/ just be nice and behave like adults. I feel like I'm talking to ten year olds here. Thank you. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 18:30, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
I'm certainly willing to compromise. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 18:37, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

I have known Ozuzanna for as long as he has been a part of this wiki and not once have I seen him act threatening or scary towards users. I really think you should specify how he has been threatening or scary since giving accusations like these without any concrete proof is not very nice . As for him ignoring you, I believe that everyone should be treated with respect but the question is; is there anything you have done yourself to cause Ozuzanna act this way? I believe both sides are just a guilty here. If you truly seek to co-operate and you are being absolutely genuine about this, then I am all for you two to have a normal chat experience.  Federal_Republic_of_Ocredan.pngOcredan Ocredanian_Flag1.png 18:42, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

I've had two users tell me they're "put off" by the way that Ozuzanna acts. I'll ask them if they still feel this way and if they wish for their names to be released. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 18:59, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
Despite not being an active member of the community, I do have previous experience with a situation similar to this, and thus feel that I should offer some non-bias advice/opinions which may clear things up. Ignoring a user is not an unheard of choice of action when said user is considered to cause uncomfortability. I whole heartily support the idea that users should try to talk out their differences when an impasse in a relationship is met; however, I also support that should a user think that reasoning will no longer work and that the only thing it will do is prolong the uncomfortability, then ignoring each other is simply the most viable and mature option. If a user believes that ignoring another user is the only way to avoid confrontation and insult, then I don't see the issue. An admins job should be to defend against vandalism, not to appease each user on the wiki - otherwise you'd just create a pseudo-atmosphere of uncertainty and pessimism towards each other. If a user has chosen to ignore another user, then it's both parties responsibilities to be mature about it. The user ignoring the other should not attempt to bait the other user into a response, and the user being ignored should try to look past it and move on, accepting that not everyone can be won over. It's always best to focus your efforts on something more productive and calming than worrying about the friend you may have had. I think that turning this into an issue is probably the worst choice, and that it's best to just leave the conversation as it is and attempt to move on, leaving any grudges or ill-will behind. Just because someone doesn't want to be your friend, doesn't mean they have to be your enemy :) jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 19:10, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
1. Your PM with me based on past experiences with 343 makes you clearly biased against him, so you are not unbiased in this situation.
2. This has become a tangent. The main point is that something important was happening, and 343 brought it up. Ozuzanna's reaction is clearly negligent.
3. Ozuzanna is an admin. He should set the example and try to be a bigger man and make things better. I'm not seeing this. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 19:13, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
I don't recall ever forcefully by speech intimidate or harass anyone on the wiki. If you disagree, feel free to do so with valid evidence. I try my best to obey wiki duties when I get a talk page message about them, but I will stand my ground when people attempt to dictate who I prefer to socialize with. As seen here, I have civilly discussed with ShadowLurker around a wiki issue. Now, as you can see I'm fine with wiki involvement like this but I should not have to be forced to socialize with said user in chat if I don't want to. I don't insult users, if you find some ignorance as an insult then you shouldn't try to give me a guilt trip to make me socialize with you; I do not intend to make you feel bad from it and I would recommend that you just accept it that I am not fine discussing with some users and move on.
If me being an admin makes you think that my socializing should be with everyone even those who I don't feel comfortable talking with, then I'd rather drop my rights. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   19:18, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
This is not what I want. The main issue here is that I expressed to you the importance of this PM as other users has complained about your behaviour. I wanted to talk to you so this whole thing would not be needed. But your ignorance left me no option. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 19:22, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
Previous engagements do not necessarily mean they form bias opinions. What made my reply non-bias was that I had put any previously held opinions aside and looked at the issue of what seemed to be the problem. Which when you read the initial message boiled down to Ozuzanna ignoring 343's pm about Ozuzanna being seen as intimidating. So actually my message was smack on the topic, rather than going on a tangent like your own had - with throwing accusations that I have some underlying motive to attack 343? As an admin he does have a responsibility to act as an example, yes. And one would assume that "If you can't get on with a user, be more mature and ignore each other as to worry about the more important matters" would be a prime example to set to users - I believe you even have such an example as your policy. Do not feed the trolls. Do not feed the trolls is based on the expectation that if a user is causing any negativity, the best thing to do is ignore it and seek a more peaceful resolution - in this case the peaceful resolution is also ignoring the "problem". Being negligent would be ignoring a user who had brought concern such as vandalism or harassment to Ozuzanna, and Ozuzanna ignoring them. Bringing a complaint from other users that they don't like Ozuzanna isn't a serious concern, it's actually outright nasty. If a user knows that an admin is ignoring them, but they have something to discuss that requires discretion, then said user should approach another admin who can talk to them in private, instead of actively seeking communications when they know that it's not going to end well. Which is evident from this conversation currently.
And so I say again. 343 has said what he wanted to say to Ozuzanna, and the message has been received. Dragging this on any further is just bringing further anguish and arguments when there is no need. As a moderator, you also have the responsibility to set an example, and trying to drag out an argument over a point which was already accomplished from the initial message is not a possitive one. jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 19:25, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes when people ignore others it means they want to be left alone, not followed up for months on end. The definition of ignorance is "not interacting". This is better than insulting and forceful fending off. Urgent things can go here on this talk page. Now, these other users you claim I have intimidated and whatnot I have not heard from them, I would rather they get involved as well than just someone else voicing them. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   19:32, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure what's more intimidating: ignoring a user or forcefully getting a user to talk via a complainy talk page message. Whatever the heck has happened here today, it's clearly an issue both sides need to sort out, per Ocredan.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  19:55, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

-- I have to agree with Shadow. I used to, for a week or so, feel that you were a nice person. Now, though seeing how you want to avoid all interaction with all other users, and how you act nowadays in chat, I don't feel right talking with you. Yes there are other mods, but you were made a mod to help others. Which means you were given the option to be a admin or not. You doing this is going against what you agreed too. I feel like I need to be able to talk to mods about any sort of wiki problem. You being evasive, rude, etc. I don't feel comfortable with you. This is also affecting how I think of other admins and mods in the chat and approaching them. I don't like thinking about this since they did nothing wrong.

Thanks for your regards~


I don't take kindly to people chatting nonsense to me in PM nor am I childish enough to be involved in such things, which I see is what you did to my PM. I'm also not tolerant about people who bug me about moderator rights often because I believe soliciting votes and indoctrination is bad faith. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   21:04, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
You see Ozuzanna? This is what I mean. The last time I done that was a long time ago and I have sinced apologized. I do not care about chat moderation rights, I dont care. Stop making me feel dreadful for mistakes I made a long time ago. It's just not fair. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 21:33, August 14, 2013 (UTC) My mistake, forget this.
I believe this is why users don't approach you. When they do, you simply push the blame on them. It's always someone else's fault, because you're so much better than them is the vibe I'm getting. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 21:32, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not pushing the blame on them, I was giving the reason why I blocked their PM. Stop jumping to conclusions when you don't know half the story. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   21:38, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
I'm tired of your logical fallacies, this is a total red herring- PMs have nothing to do with this, flutter on never brought up PMs. Once again you're dodging points. Even when users bring up their concerns to you, you ignore them or pretend they're not there. Flutter on's post didn't even have anything to do with PMs, You're very off topic and ignoring what people are saying. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 21:44, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
PMs have to do with this, because Flutter-on once pmed me and confused me, then began saying something else which I didn't understand and I feel that since I blocked PMs it has led them to be hostile to me. If not, they can try prove me wrong. Another thing worth noting was the user said something along the lines of about being a mod once or twice, I remember. I notice so far these are to do with chat - perhaps you could make a forum to restrict my access there or something? Perhaps that's the problem. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   21:52, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
If you truly believe that would solve things, couldn't you simply not join chat (if you think that would fix things)? Still, I feel like that just avoids the problem instead of solving it. Why do you think this needs to go to a forum? Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 22:02, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
Because forums and discussion is how we deal with things. I want to hear more people than just you few if I should be not allowed in chat, it's a major change and people might not be overall agreeing with you. B0lGGoQ.gifOz  22:06, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
Might I add I'm sick to death of people kissing up to me and asking for mod rights, so yeah, it might be beneficial for me too. :) B0lGGoQ.gifOz  22:08, August 14, 2013 (UTC)}

Please ignore all of this, I could have dealt with it much better and for this, I apologize for any stress it may have caused to anybody. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 03:47, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Behaviour on chat and talk page

Ozuzanna, you scare users. They don't come to you themselves because you scare them. The talk message above is 343 telling you that. You were short with him and totally missed the point, going off on a personal tangent. That's why users don't approach you. 343 himself said he was scared to talk to you about any of this, I told him I'd make sure he was safe. He feels bullied by the way you act towards him, and based on the message above, I'd say we can all plainly see why. This has nothing to do with 343- it has to do with your actions towards users. This isn't a personal argument against 343, or about his past, it's about how you act and come across to other users. I'd like to ask that you please tell us why you act this way, without referencing your personal issues with 343 or his past, because that frankly is irreverent. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 19:39, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see why you're being persistent in trying to attack Ozuzanna? You're dragging this into an argument, and it doesn't need to be like that. jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 19:41, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
Again, you're pointing fingers at me and don't give me valid proof of me "scaring users". I don't waver my hand around with my extra powers because that's rights abuse, that includes solving personal issues with them, that's also rights abuse. This means I'm not going to shove people away who would like to tell me about this. Why don't you show me evidence of these users, all I've seen is just fingers pointing at me without any proof. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   19:44, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
I just gave you proof, "343 himself said he was scared to talk to you about any of this, I told him I'd make sure he was safe. He feels bullied by the way you act towards him". You're choosing to selectively ignore the point, which you did above with 343's message.
"I'd like to ask that you please tell us why you act this way" I'd like to ask you why you're intimidating people, your behaviour towards 343 is a direct example of what I'm talking about. Users are scared of you. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 19:51, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
Thus far the only thing I have seen on the talk page is that 343 and yourself have joined up together after a prior conversation on the PM in order to target Ozuzanna and claim that he's intimidating and nobody wants to talk to him, without any evidence or backing. So in reality it's just stirring up insults and throwing them at Ozuzanna because you don't agree with him ignoring 343.
Also, you started off this new thread with "This has nothing to do with 343- it has to do with your actions towards users." and are now trying to use 343 and Ozuzannas relationship as evidence. I have not spoken to one user on Wikia who has found Ozuzanna intimidating or a bully, save 343 and yourself. Instead of this being it's original discussion that 343 doesn't like the way Ozuzanna is ignoring him, you've twisted this entire conversation into a witch hunt against Ozuzanna. Which is plain and simply, not acceptable. jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 19:56, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
T3CH, you think that Nitz and me planned to do all of this? No. However, it seems more likely that you and Ozuzanna have done this. I send this message to Ozuzanna and immediately, you come across to MLP Wiki and PM Nitz about me and my past on Halo Nation. Persistently stating how bad I am and almost as if you were trying to make him hate me. Nitz stated to you he doesn't care about what happened on the other Wiki, but you persistently continued. You also said to Nitz that my elder brother was best friends with an Administrator on Halo Nation. This is not the case and you know it. I am friends with Bravadostock in real life. It can't be anymore clearer, it is written on my Halo Nation profile page. You came here today to cause nothing but hatred towards me. If you want the evidence, Nitz sent me screenshots. That is all. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 20:02, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
It isn't me and T3CH who did this, because we didn't start this whole thing. And no, I promise you he hasn't told me if you are bad or whatever, I can make that judgement by my own experience thank you. I have tried to peacefully deal with you, but all I feel is you giving me a guilt trip and false accusations of intimidating people (false because you haven't presented any proof, except turning my attempt of co-existing peacefully into making me feel bad). I also have a feeling I'm not the only admin here who is dealing this the way I am. B0lGGoQ.gifOz  20:08, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
Well, that is quite simply a lie. I fully admit I spoke about the issues you and I had on Halo Nation, however they were never used as fuel to attempt to try and turn a bias against you, something I made abundantly clear multiple times throughout the PM. I contacted Nitz through PM because I was concerned about his approach to no-one being allowed to ignore another user, and that I felt that was wrong. I used previous experiences with yourself as an example of why someone might feel the need to ignore a user and that I believe that it's a justified action to ignore a user so long as it's the most preferable option to avoid confrontation and arguments. Instead, obviously Nitz has misinterpreted this and attempted to relay this on to you - which would explain your aggressive confrontation through PM (which I had ignored, because it causes less of an argument, see the pattern here?)
But again, this was never about your past, this was never about what anyone thinks about you, this was about supporting Ozuzannas right to ignore a user he feels is causing him anguish. Every user, regardless of position, is allowed to do so. There is nothing against it in the ToU, there is nothing against it in the MLP policy, and there no problem with it at all. But what is evident, from the responses of Nitz and yourself, both through PM and on this conversation, is that you're attempting to drag this from a mature discussion into an argument; and I'm not being a part of it. When you wish to return to discussing the matter of if ignoring someone is a viable solution, then contact me, but until then I'm not taking part in your attempts to mud sling and attempt to make out that I have this "underlying motive" to try and discredit you. jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 20:28, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

I would just like to point something out here about the whole "users being scared to come to you"; this talk page is littered with messages asking for help from Ozuzanna. TheUltimateH4M Talk 23:25, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

So the actions of some dictate the actions of all? That's totally illogical. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 00:53, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Exactly what I've just pointed out. Just because a couple of users would see him as "intimidating" does not mean that a majority do. TheUltimateH4M Talk 01:12, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

RE: The image I uploaded

Hello there, I appriciate you find this concerning. As a matter of fact, I went to post this on your userpage. I wrote out the message and uploaded the image but then thought about it again and decided that's not the best thing to do afterall. Hense why it isn't anywhere on your talkpage.

Feel free to delete this as I have no intentions on using it whatsoever.

I am however upset that you thought I done it deliberately to shun you. Please don't think so little of me, that's not what I do.

Kind Regards,

ShadowLurker343 (talk) 00:57, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Why exactly would you be putting it on his userpage? TheUltimateH4M Talk 01:12, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Talkpage, sorry. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 03:53, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
"I went to post this on your userpage. I wrote out the message and uploaded the image..." - this shows you had the intention of using the image against Ozuzanna in an attempt to make Ozuzanna look bad. Yet then you say "I am however upset that you thought I done it deliberately to shun you.", claiming that you're upset that Ozuzanna would think he was trying to use the image against him? jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 17:06, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
T3CH, I can't help but feeling that this is going to do nothing but cause further arguements and debates. Something I don't want to do. I have however understood your point and have crossed that last bit out as as the time, I was going to use it to spite and shun him. However, I realized that it would cause further problems and that it wasn't a good idea after speaking with some people about it. So, the image was uploaded to the Wiki, but I canceled the post. In regards to everything that's happened, I apologized to Ozuzanna for the way I came across as my approach was comepletely wrong. I caused stress and again, I am sorry for this. I hope that now, we can move on and this doesn't need to occur. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 17:21, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Recent Occurance

Hello there, I got sent a screenshot from Halo Nation where you openly admitted to everyone that you are planning to make a forum to have be infinitely blocked. I'm sorry, but this is silly now. It won't pass because I have not broke any violations.

The way I approached you in chat about it was wrong and I apologize for this but I felt quite annoyed to be hoenst with you. This occured yesterday when the current talkpage message was in place, which I find somewhat hurtful. It seems you deliberately went to a place with history full of people who would support this forum. Please can we resolve this and I do not want everyone else commenting or it could get out of hand like yesterday.

Credit to you that you did say you don't want solicit views. But still, why do that at all?

Kind regards,thumb

ShadowLurker343 (talk) 18:36, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

I just woke up and found this- This is solicitation of votes if I've ever seen it. Is there any explanation for this behaviour? Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 20:07, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
As an admin present at the time, I had said that users were not to vote unless they would vote with non-bias interpretation as I did not want Halo Nation involved. And thank you for posting the image, that image violates HN policy of inciting cross-wiki warfare, and I'll be sure to speak to the admin who posted it. jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 20:13, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
This is actually Ozank's fault because he should not have brought it there in the first place. Ozank is as guilty as the admin that posted that. As for people from the HN wiki voting over here, they shouldn't be involved at all if they are not normally here. It would be difficult for them to judge the situation here anyway, since they're not involved. Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 20:18, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Had you seen the replies, instead of an image captured out of context. You'd have seen the only people who even paid any heed to the comment and said they would be sure to see through the forum was users who actively used MLP Wiki as well. Remember that a lot of users use multiple wikis. As for those who don't use MLP Wiki, none of them gave the slightest care for the comment. Yes, I spoke to Ozuzanna in PM to warn him not to bring up foreign wiki matters on the chat as it was against our policy - but as he rarely uses our chat I forgave him. Said admin however, knows our policies well enough. jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 20:34, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand what you are talking about. I am the one who posted this screenshot and the person I got it from was no Administrator. I am confused with what you're trying to get across here. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 20:37, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'm not going to argue who did what, as that's an HN matter now and doesn't really belong on this talk page anyway. I just wanted to thank the uploader for making me aware of a breech in our policies, it's a large help. Thanks. jLBGLKz.pngydxD7OL.png 20:41, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

As long as you understand that the person is not an Administrator. I don't want you accusing the wrong person. It would be very unfair. ShadowLurker343 (talk) 20:43, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

However, Ozuzanna, I would quite like a reply please? You stated that you will reply to my talkpage messages. You have been present on the Wiki since this message was posted. Please could I have some input back? I would just like to know what's going on. Thanks and have a nice day, ShadowLurker343 (talk) 22:08, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

thank you

Hi i just wanted to say thanks for the help!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fluttershy6227 (talkcontribs) 00:28, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Singer of "A Friend for Life"

Hi Ozuzanna, re: this edit; before Wizeman changed it to just [Singer], we had this discussion (this speculation forum thread is also relevant). That would be why he went ahead and made that edit. Steph physarum (talk) CastleCreator_Octavia.png 09:30, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks for telling me. B0lGGoQ.gifOz   11:02, August 20, 2013 (UTC)~
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